I’m not familiar with what he used (it appears to have been an ar-15 but there are different attachments and modifications that can be made to them that would legally categorize them as assault weapons), but its not my understanding that “military style” weapons are available to the general public. I’m assuming you’re referring to a fully automatic rifle? An ar-15 isn’t fully automatic, its semi automatic.
I’ll take what you said to mean that you’re alarmed that he was sold a gun in general. Imo, its important for people to have access to guns in order to prevent a more tyrannical government from taking away our rights. A good example of the usefulness of guns is the bundy standoff, not to necessarily get in to the legal claims made by either side about what they were protesting.
They aren’t. I live in a state (in the south) where you can walk in a gun store and walk out with a new rifle 30 minutes later, but seeing “military style” weapons is something I never see.
I have to agree with you that we should have access to guns, the problem with guns has to do with age and the culture in the USA. When my dad was growing up they had gun clubs and would take their rifles to school. There were not nearly as many shooting back then as there are today. What caused the sudden change in our culture?
NRA whipping people into a frenzy about the government coming to take their guns. Fox News. Two Obama presidencies. White people losing their power as the country becomes more diverse. The belief that more guns is the answer to increased shootings. Heller case made everyone think the 2nd Amendment means exactly what Scalia and the NRA think it does and always has and god forbid you go against the interpreted wishes of men from two+ centuries ago.
dude watch some of the videos the NRA has been posting its some of the most outrageous propaganda i have ever seen… THEM, THEY vs US its an absolute joke they are about as far away as an organization can get from supporting responsible gun ownership.
Every military eligible male in switzerland age 18-34 is required to keep an assault rifle or pistol in their home (as well as military service, and government sponsored days when everyone goes shooting a couple times per year), and they have lower rates of gun violence.
LOL, everybody point and laugh at the dumb as shit libtards still counting their like shares. Another successful social media campaign underway to change the world following #KONY2012, #BringBackOurGirls, #ImWithHer, #NotOneMore, #PrayForParis, #NoDAPL, #BlackLivesMatter. It’s a literal catalog of impotent failure to enact change by people that lack any concept of how the world actually works. So now libs are all *effecting change* by like sharing things that make politicians look bad with people already within your echo chamber. Riveting. I’ll be sure to stay tuned for updates on this rapidly evolving instrument of change. I’m just anxiously waiting for the day when Dem’s have control of both branches of Congress and the Presidency again so we can have strong gun control laws the way we didn’t when they had full control from 2009 to 2011.
Funny that this thread never gets a bump about Chicago, racist libs only care about black America when its an election cycle:
New Years 2018: 1 dead, 20 wounded
Christmas 2017: 5 dead, 20 wounded
Thanksgiving: 7 dead, 36 wounded
Memorial Day: 7 dead 45 wounded
4th of July: 11 dead 45 wounded
The reality is a lot more simple. One of the things that has held gun legislation back is that nobody is willing to entertain an idea that they don’t think is the best idea. Voters and lobbyists keep insisting that everything happens at once or not at all, no middle ground. The result is essentially divide and conquer for gun lobbyists. We should be willing to take baby steps based on what we can agree on. There’s a generally high level of agreement on background checks (90% of all voters and 75% of GOP) and stricter enforcement and laws around transactions. There’s less of an agreement around security because of cost / efficacy concerns and risks of armed teachers and even less around bans. If people really want “something” to be done then they should start figuring out what they can form a general consensus on and focus on building momentum around that consensus, even if its not what they’d personally want and work in pieces from there.
But nobody, not even Dems honestly want gun control, they just want a blunt political tool. Which is why when a background check bill was introduced in 2013 backed by both parties it failed in the Senate by five votes… with four Democrats having voted against it.
I don’t really have any interest in defending neoliberal democrats so I’m just going to assume that was meant to be a separate rant.
I’m confused on the other part though. Are you saying social media is ineffective or that nominal liberals just don’t know how to play the game correctly? I agree with the latter. However I don’t think it’s accurate to say it’s all seen within an echo chamber when it’s occurring on the back of these public figure’s tweets. As far as effectiveness goes, idk man, it seemed to play a fairly big role in recent elections IMO.
yea was that meant as a joke BS or are you really a grown man using teenage 4chan terms like libtard lol thats a bad look it makes anyone look like nerdyblop & to be honest 1 of him is enough (i do love your post nerdy keep it up though, just 1 is def enough)
i dont disagree with you BS - i think there is common sense legislation that will never get through because both parties use it to rile up their base. if guns were no longer an issue the right would have less locked in voters (i honestly dont know too many single issue voters on the let for the gun control issue, but welcome for evidence to the contrary) its the same reason abortion will never be resolved in the eyes of the electorate - we cant let it otherwise the masses might get a chance to actually think about candidates as a whole aside from my party = good, their party = bad.
i think the smart play for dems is to just concede gun control entirely and just post a video of dj khaled saying “anotha one” when the next shooting happens. although tbh it might not even work because the NRA will still convince people that dems want to take all their firearms. i still think a grand agreement is in order where dems concede firearms legislation in return for something from the right - maybe abortion who knows.
Well, frankly you’d have to be retarded to be unable to analyze an argument based on its own merits. So you lost quite a bit of credibility right there.
I can agree with you somewhat here. I think its being ineffectively used because nobody is using the platform to bridge the gap. As far as these tweets being on public figure tweets, that means nothing. Any time these political figures tweet they generate a mile long list of negative responses. But the retweets, which are what really drive visibility invariably wind up in echo chambers. I know this and I don’t even twitter.