Body image issues... for MEN

Go return those video tapes.

Those without body issues are ignorant to true potential. The old adage the only wisdom is knowning you know nothing can be applied to physical capability. In all areas of life, if you are content, you are complacent.

You know-Your actual face,body type etc can be offset very well by style.

A stylish women walking with confidence will pique your interest even if she has no ass

So very true.

And even with the same outfit, the way you walk, smile, make eye contact can make a HUGE difference!

Very true. Attitude and confidence can carry the day with either men or women.

As long as confidence doesn’t turn into cockiness. Healthy dose of humility is important.

Here’s how I see it:

confidence + disrespect for others = cockiness

lack-of-confidence + fear + trying-to-hide-it = cockiness

In my worldview, cockiness isn’t excess of confidence, it’s when confidence mixes with other unattractive things, or when someone tries to make up for lack-of-confidence by play-acting a confident role. Neither are attractive, and it gets easier and easier to spot the more you see it.

Are you sure you have a gf already?:slight_smile:

True. Best example is Emma Stone. Not classically attractive…but she has “it”.

I thought cockiness is more or less arrogance.

Arrogance has nothing to do with disrespect for others.I like arrogant people…i don’t have to filter my thoughts with them.

Also,for the girl who said she likes humility-you maybe a rarity because i don’t think iv’e ever met a girl who get’s self-depriciating humour.Guy’s get it…but women?jury’s out on that one…

I think what you call arrogant, I call being straight forward/not sugar-coating things. And I appreciate that quality a lot. For example I would prefer a guy to call me on my BS directly if I did/said something stupid.

You seriously never met a girl who can appreciate a self-depriciating humor? So does that mean you never met a girl who doesn’t take herself too seriously? Or am I missing your point?

I apologize, she actually wore eyeliner and that’s about it. I’m pretty sure she didn’t wear anything else, but maybe she wasn’t your typical Japanese girl. She must have been screwed up in the head a little – she was dating me after all. wink

i think it’s wise to put one thing straight…

Being body conscious and wanting to be in shape may not be a security issue (i know some of you above kind of switched gears toward that direction).

Knowing your own body type and working toward a better physique is quite good for your health, in most cases. There are loads of research that prove your body shape shows signs of heart diseases, etc. I think keeping a nice lean figure probably promotes healthier lifestyle. This is not to say, you go crazy dieting and use drugs and surgeries to stay slim (or buff), of course.

But clearly being “self-confident” isn’t always a good thing - a lot of men are perfectly confident with their beer belly and triple chins. Is that healthy though??

I would argue - yes, it is. If someone is happy then they’re in a pretty good mental state. Sure, they may have a heart attack 10 years before me, but so what? They’re having fun.

If someone is perfectly fine with their imperfect body then leave them to it. What you just said right there is exactly why people have issues with their body to begin with. Because others are telling them they’re not okay.

That’s a deep observation right there. (I’m not being sarcastic)

How i look at body image issues is that if you look at other people and you feel bad about yourself in comparison and constantly get you down, then yes, you have a body image issue.

But if you look at other people’s physique and you use it as a motivation to train yourself to get in shape, i think it’s a good thing.

And for those who wouldn’t look at other people at all AND do not think body image is AT ALL important - THAT is a bit concerning because your body shape is one of the most physical symptoms of your body problems. Those who are happy with being a bit over-weight, a little high in BP, and a little high in cholesterol, and a little high in glucose… may lead a happier, carefree life. BUT people rarely just die suddenly from a heart attack, people usually suffer and have to battle with illnesses for a long time before dying.

So, i wouldn’t say it’s wise to eat what you want, don’t exercise, don’t care, but be HAPPY and CONFIDENT, and take the risk of getting sick early in your life.

I agree somewhat

But there is a difference between “happy with imperfect body” and “happy with something in your body that might give you heartattack in 10 years”

Some things you can fix and others you can’t. Some are health risks and others aren’t. But, it’s up to the individual to determine what’s right for themselves. Not you or I.

It’s slightly off topic but a clear example; how about smoking? I detest it, but if that’s what makes someone happy then I say have at it. Everyone is aware of the health risks. If smoking makes them happy then why should I impose idealism on them?

If we wanted to tie this back to finance, one could argue that we should impose our beliefs on the fat people and smokers because they drive up health care costs for the rest of us. That is an debate I would entertain.

Could be some cultural issues going on here. My impression from living in Japan for a while was that it is considered deeply shameful and maybe even disrespectful to society for a Japanese woman to be fat. I looked and literally did not even see one fat Japanese woman the entire time I lived there (I did see one hugely obese fat chick who looked Japanese but she was American based on her accent). It was almost like playing “Where’s Waldo?” for fat chicks and never winning which was awesome.

It could be that Hachicko feels more pressure to look a certain way because of her cultural heritage and she seems to be happy that maybe men are starting to feel some of this pressure too so it’s not as one-sided as it has been historically. It’s not too surprising that a lot of women would welcome men taking better care of themselves.

To summarize:

Japan = people have their sh*t locked down in all respects to the point of suffocating under societal expectations

The US = welcome to the land of fat people with poor manners, soon changing its name to the United States of Me

It’s the most jarring reverse culture shock I’ve ever experienced to come back to SF after living in Tokyo, every time I did that it took me at least a week to adjust to brutally lower expectations.

I impose my beliefs on smokers when I forced to partake in 2nd hand smoke. One of the biggest pet peves of mine is walking behind someone while they chain smoke - with the exception of women I always pass by them with a powerful shoulder check.