Body image issues... for MEN

I agree. Unfortunately since I’m not very tall, I can’t really date a woman taller than 5’5".

We have a secretary in my office that’s almost 6 ft tall and she often wears heels. As much as I realize she’s way too tall for me (and engaged but thats beside the point), I do love to watch her walk away.

I knew a woman that was 6 foot 1 inches that wore 6 inch heels. She told me the message she was sending was that she would only get pounded by guys at least 6 foot 7 inches, whether she had heels on or not. it’s not a coincidence when a woman wears heels of a certain length.

I have a group of female friends who are all 5’10" and taller (all ex-models or athletes) and they all love wearing heels. I’m not short but they tower over me, it always looks funny in pictures when they only take upper body pics and it looks like Im a midget hanging around a bunch of chicks.

Most tall chicks wear heels…even Taylor Swift got with the program after resisting for so many years.

On days where this secretary decides to wear leggings as pants, I become even happier that I have my job.

I was born in heels, but it’s really hard to find normal ones (3-3.5’) these days. Sigh.

I love heels, they have such a significant positive effect on the look of the legs… Next to having awesome teeth (with a nice smile), it’s probably the first thing I look at (the legs, not the shoes).

I also am a big fan of gauchos (sp), but you don’t see those anymore :frowning: … I don’t necessarily like leggings though. Many women wear them with stupid ass outfits and make themselves look like fools (i.e. jean skirt and leggings, vomit). Now leggings/yoga pants or boy shorts on women while working out is fabulous however.

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Caring about being shredded and have perfect skin is just as weird as eating sleeves of oreos and being grossly overweight. I don’t know why but even if you’re relatively good looking if you don’t play the part it’s frowned upon. If you’re average weight you should drop an extra 10 pounds and spike your hair? The way I see it the new average is being the sterotyped fitness person and trying to be the loudest person in the bar (if not actual tone then in appearence).

The thing is we don’t notice the below average people unless they are really really far below the average. So when we estimate the average, it tends to be biased upwards because we don’t have an accurate view of what the bottom half really is, except for a few extremes.

Even when people looks at women here and say “she’s a 6 at best”. Really? I’ll bet of we took a random sample of 1000 women from the population, many “barely a 6” will actually be in the 80th percentile or higher. You just gloss over most people unless they are really attractive or really unattractive.

I tend to ignore people who are overly into appearences as I feel like they’re trying to make up for something. It’s usually lack of personality. I think it’s funny people gloss over average looks, but these people are usually more confident and successful in my experience. Now when I say average I don’t literally mean like 50% but like the 70-80% range that B-Chad is talking about. Just out of that range where they’re garnering attention, but could if they took the extra time to do all the steps mentioned above to be “attractive.”

I, too, tend to avoid people obsessed with their looks. There is more to life than working out 5 hours per day just to have that “beach body”. You look superficial/shallow to me if that’s your gig.

That being said, people should definitely make an effort and be healthy/active and in great shape. Like everything else in life, people obsess over certain things. I think it’s a way to overcompensate for something that is missing in your life/personality/etc.

Well-rounded people have their priorities in order and typically don’t have 5 hours per day to spend at the gym - they have people to be with and careers to tend to…

That being said, I dress well, keep myself properly groomed (haircut every 2 weeks, shave every morning, shirts pressed, etc.) and I’m in pretty decent shape.

Ditto to everthing. (Except for the “I’m in pretty decent shape” part. But I can jog 3/4 of a mile, albeit very slowly.)

Well, there’s healthy, and there’s ripped. I’ll never be ripped (to me, it’s not worth the pain it takes to get there), but I do try to be healthy. I wish it were easier to eat right, though. I do love all the wrong things in the eating department (though I’m better at controlling portions now).

Yeah exactly. I could probably get to that stage, but I don’t want to spend 10 adtl hours a week at the gym or eat like a rabbit or whatever I had to do to get there, but I’m right in a normal weight, keep myself looking presentable, and eat relatively well so that’s enough for me.

Hmmm… i don’t know if i agree completely.

Yes, if you are overly concerned with being skinny to the point you are damaging your health, then yes, you are not much healthier than grossly overweight people.

But i am just talking about regular exercise, lose the belly, eat cautiously, and build some muscles - that’s hardly weird.

It’s all relative, it depends on which perspective you come from… i mean, though 5 hours at the gym everyday seems extreme, but how many people have told you studying for CFA everyday until you pass out on the books is a little too intense as well? And how many people work over 15 hours a day monitoring 2 or more markets?

Of course, your argument is that, “but CFA is for my career! It ought to be more important!” - but is it true though? People who are very into fitness would say there’s nothing more important than health, one should probalby work to support their basic needs but fitness is for life.

Can you see the two sides in this argument?

I have a heard time training just to stay fit. I need a purpose, an end goal to make my training more substantial. When i was in HS and college, the training was for baseball. After college I went through a period of 3-4 months of total confusion. I was going to the gym but going through the motions as opposed to giving it my all. i now weight train for martial arts - to me having a purpose creates a better workout and increases the intensity. I understand not everyone has a physicial hobby, but i think you will find that if you do and you coordinate you gym efforts to maximize that hobby, you will achieve better results.

I don’t think your argument is valid.

Look at the finance industry for instance, people are usually not overly attractive looking, i would say most of them fall into what you described as “average looks” - But are they necessarily funnier or have better personalities though?

Some of them can be vein and superficial, some can be dull and boring, some are mean and deceitful, some do not have anything to contribute in a conversation other than the money market…

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