Mueller impanels grand jury

You derail discussions with your substanceless posts very regularly. Zzz

Is “Challa” your new drone account? Or is this MonkeyDeLuffy?

im sure putin is thrilled with the ROI on his investment which is why trump letting him off the hook is even more egregious (despite the near unanimous authorization the Senate voted on - although they are acting very limp wristed by not forcing his hand). Twist the screws and up the sanctions - russias economy is already a joke & the country is essentially (and has basically always been) run by the mob. Previous sanctions hurt them bad, more would continue to cripple them.

Muellers treating them like the mob & working his way up the ladder which is fun to watch. Love hes charging the attorneys of these people that were involved as well. Ive got my pop corn its been very fun to watch. To note: i have no problem with Putin trying to interfere, we have done it enough times. He has always been, and will continue to be the leader of a hostile government (i dont consider the people of russia to be our enemy, similar to iran) the crime is committed by those willing to assist in the subversion of the US electoral system. The investigation is going swimmingly. Whats fun would be watching a real US president respond with cyber force - making Putin censor everything and shut websites down to stop his citizens from getting information he doesnt like.

the real fun will be this election cycle - this is the opportunity for the Repubs to “exit” their position. The only way i see this happening is with super obvious russian information campaign pushing for democrats - then the repubs can say “see it happened to us there was no collusion we should shut the investigation down!”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/21/paul-manafort-rick-gates-new-charges-criminal-case-419685

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Of course I find it fun to watch the collapse of America’s pseudo-democracy.

But it’s just weird to see the totalitarian-left cheer a coup. There is no outcome where this ends up looking good for “liberalism”. I’ve pointed this out to many smart leftists, and none will show a forecast where the left turns the US into a failed state, and that’s works out great. They are just locked into emotionality and operating blindly.

Nope. As everyone now sees, America is collapsing. All Russia has to do is ride the century of China, and they will be taken care of (same way as the US spread the money around their network). Putin is aligned with the winning team this time.

we’ll see what happens with the mueller investigation - its certainly possible Trump is in office due to a digital coup assisted by a foreign government. Anyone who denies there is a significant amount of circumstantial evidence that has already been released to the public has a vested interest in telling you that.

i find it oh so funny how much you talk about liberalism ruining democracy then mention puting & china in the next paragraph - 2 countries that barely even attempt to claim they are democratic. your worldview is strange at best & purposefully deceptive at worst.

What does this even mean? If Trump keeps doing what the S&P500 tells him to do, then nothing will happen with the investigation, unless it’s useful to make him a fall guy late-term. It will be kept alive so as to keep on pressure, in case he starts trying to do things people voted for (anti-corporatism stuff).

It’s shocking, you seem to truly believe in justice or truth or whatever. Totally brainwashed by corporate media. Can’t you take a pill or something and wake the hell up?? :neutral_face:

sometimes PA you gotta have a little faith :wink:

Ultimately, I don’t think we’ll see direct collusion but who knows. I saw a video last night of Rachel Maddow essentially crying in joy at the 13 indictments that was arguably the most embarrassing thing I’ve seen on the internet, and I’ve been reading PA’s posts for years. MSNBC is so bad.

That being said - there is obviously tons more here than the absurd conspiracy theories that were peddled here over the past year. At the very least Mueller is getting rid of some awful people. Hopefully Kushner goes down eventually.

did DJT directly collude? likely not - his people/putins people arent dumb enough for that. did his team collude? at this point i think its quite possible. nixon didnt break into the watergate complex either - trumps done a fairly nice job of attempting to stop the investigation in its infancy & that will likely be its downfall if he goes down

Collusion is not a crime, although Donny seems to have it permanently fixed in everyone’s lexicon with his tweets. The charge would be conspiracy. Did the orange man or his team conspire with the Russians?

I have “faith” the S&P500 will keep controlling all who enter DC, to maximize profits. You pawns are so easily played.

The companies on the s+p 500 aren’t controlling the FBI. The basis of the investigation and its moving forward isnt related in any way to what you described. Thats some cw level conspiracy theory.

Yes the S&P500 is (as an aggregate entity), and vice versa. It’s all one corporate-government state with one purpose, to maximize profits. There is no way to draw a line to mark where one begins and another ends. Even for you guys with zero analytical abilities it should be obvious by the way the machine moves as one in a coordinated manner.

Lol k

Same Beijing and the SOEs, South Korea and the Chaebols, etc. Business&Gov collude/cooperate. But a much worse situation in America. Why can’t you guys remember conversations? Too much corn syrup and prozac from the corporate-government state? There is a whole thread on it.

But to your naive little mind that is an “unthinkable conspiracy theory”.

Hey sorry I’ve been busy taking orders from meuller and the s+p execs, just a lot to handle

I have an alterante conspiracy theory, pa. That you’re mind controlled by the chinese govt.

I don’t think PA is wrong here. There’s tons of evidence to conclude that the corporate owned media are running a propaganda model influenced heavily by the state. His argument falls totally apart when he then cites Trump as some revolutionary to counter this. This is where Turd also was completely and utterly blind.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/useful-idiocy-donald-trump/

The problem with Donald Trump is not that he is imbecilic and inept—it is that he has surrendered total power to the oligarchic and military elites. They get what they want. They do what they want. Although the president is a one-man wrecking crew aimed at democratic norms and institutions, although he has turned the United States into a laughingstock around the globe, our national crisis is embodied not in Trump but the corporate state’s now unfettered pillage.

Trump, who has no inclination or ability to govern, has handed the machinery of government over to the bankers, corporate executives, right-wing think tanks, intelligence chiefs and generals. They are eradicating the few regulations and laws that inhibited a naked kleptocracy. They are dynamiting the institutions, including the State Department, that served interests other than corporate profit and are stacking the courts with right-wing, corporate-controlled ideologues. Trump provides the daily entertainment; the elites handle the business of looting, exploiting and destroying.

yikes. short sp500

More charges for Manafort and Gates.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4385690/2-22-18-Manafort-Gates-Indictment-EDVA.pdf

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/967059749752713216

As the CPAC crowd chants “Lock her up!” over and over, former top Trump campaign aide Rick Gates is pleading guilty and signaling that he is cooperating in the Mueller investigation.