Mueller impanels grand jury

Water Cooler
#561

Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who in 2016 met with Trump campaign officials in Trump Tower, charged in a separate case regarding New York real estate and money laundering. Charging document below.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.507304/gov.uscourts.nysd.507304.2.0.pdf

#562

nuttin burger

#563

Giving data to the Russians during the election seems quite scary to me.

#564

NYT story about Manafort and Gates passing along information to Russian intelligence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/manafort-trump-campaign-data-kilimnik.html

#565

id say an 8.

#566

FBI Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

That’s the headline of a NY Times article published Friday evening. Link below. This inquiry was presumably folded into the Special Counsel investigation, led by Mueller, that arose thereafter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html

#567

Rudy Giuliani just contradicted nearly all the Trump team’s past collusion denials

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/17/rudy-giuliani-just-contradicted-nearly-all-trump-teams-past-collusion-denials

#568

But her emails!

#569

trump told cohen to lie to congress

https://www.axios.com/trump-told-cohen-lie-congress-moscow-tower-fb2b1c98-9773-41c7-b350-56bcc30be972.html

#570

Buzzfeed broke the story. Link below.

President Trump Directed His Attorney Michael Cohen To Lie To Congress About The Moscow Tower Project

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation

#571

We’ve had so many “bombshells” dropped on Trump over the last two years but nothing has stuck (and, to be completely fair, some was fabricated). But, this is different. If there are supporting documents and other witnesses not named Cohen that can collaborate Trump suborning perjury, that’s a big deal. You’ll get republicans turning on him pretty fast if he clearly directed Cohen to lie to Congress.

For now, though, it’s a story broke by Buzzfeed which I have no confidence in. I’m surprised they didn’t make the article “The Top 10 Reasons Trump Should be Impeached.”

#572

You’re confusing Buzzfeed with Buzzfeed news. The article writers were Leopold (Pulitzer Finalist) and Cormier (Pulitzer Winner), I’d say they’re at least a little bit past “Top 10 things to make MAGA supporters go crazy” lists

And these Bombshells are still legitimate even though nothing bigly has happened so far. We’ve gotten multiple indictments, 70+ million dollars in revenue, and multiple additional discoveries. The issue is that this is complicated, hard to follow, and involves a good portion of the GOP. This is going to take time, and is confusing to most of the public. How long to do you think it took for watergate to really escalate? Iran Contra? Hell, we’re still waiting for Benghazi/Her Emails to have their ‘bombshell’ moment.

#573

Furthermore, in what world does Trump deserve the benefit of the doubt? We’ve gone from “My Campaign had nothing to do with Russia, I have nothing to do with Russia, 0 , none, period.” to Gulliani saying “I never said the campaign didn’t collude” (he did). Look at what he did with stormy from “This never happened, fake news” to his voice being on tape acknowledging the payment.

Literally he chose to lie about the crowd size of his inauguration.

The small loan of a million dollars from his Dad turned out to be $500 million and tax fraud. Trump lies, like, a lot. Whatever he says is irrelevant, since there’s literally no way to know if it’s true.

#574

No, Buzzfeed sucks and so does their news department. They’re still clickbait and they employ journalists with questionable pasts, like Jason Leopold. That is if you believe the Columbia Journalism Review to be a credible source…He straight-up makes stuff up, a lot as it turns out. Read for yourself:

https://archives.cjr.org/politics/jason_leopold_caught_sourceles.php

Now, don’t confuse my skepticism towards one of the authors with wanting this to be false. I’d love to see Trump ousted. Just saying, always have to check your sources.

#575

Fair enough counterpoint, a little disappointing to see this guy as the one who broke the story then.

#576

STL was on point in this case

#577

Huh, that’s gotta suck.

#578

Wow, that’s real, fake news.

#579

lol trump got hp over there threatening cohen

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/23/politics/michael-cohen-testimony-postponed/index.html

#580

The irony of getting caught trying to legitimize a fake Buzzfeed story about Trump as a legitimate news source after blaming lying Hillary’s loss on conservative’s willingness to believe illegitimate news sources about candidates is hilarious.