At 33, that might be good if you are in Alaska or N. Dakota. But anywhere else (ie LA, SF, Seattle, Miami, NYC, Houston) with actual civilized population with semi educated brains…is not that good. It is okay but not to the point where you say “come at me bros.”
This is like the guy divining a bright yellow 2002 Corvette thinking he is the sh**. Trust me it is not bad but not that great.
That’s why i said it is like driving a Corvette which is good but not to the point where he can brag about it espeically in “high finance” forum, AF, where most people work and live in highly populated cities in the world…Don’t brag about your Corvette when there are R8s, Lambos, Porsches, AMGs, etc is all I am saying.
I’d say for a true finance community, $1 million is the low end when you are in your early 30s. You probably went to business school or took some years to do something else, and maybe you will make more later. It is important to realize that 30 something is still quite young with respect to asset accumulation. If you had a real front office job from college without interruption and have a decent lifestyle, you probably have about $2 million by age 30, and should have $4-5 million by age 35. If you are very lucky and went to a high upside hedge fund or PE place with good years, you might have meaningfully more. From what I have seen though, if you have $3 million in early 30s, you are in the better minority already.
I spent several years of my 20s enlisted in the Marine Corps. The best I can say about that in terms of net worth is at least it meant I never had to worry about student loans afterward.
Interesting. The 30 year old may actually be in a better spot since they likely didn’t lose a lot in 2008. That wouldn’t matter to the 35 year old either if they stayed fully invested (and employed) through the crash, but that seems highly unlikely.
Timing matters a bit, I guess, but it’s not as important as just having the money early. Almost anything someone would have bought in 2007 has appreciated despite the crash. Also consider that the person who is 5 years senior would have had more to invest in 2008, 2009, etc. The 30 year old guy would have bought $20k of stock in 2009. So what? The 5y senior would be a VP and maybe bought $200k, $250k… he would capture more of the bull market gains. Similarly, the 35 year old would have had small bonuses pre crash, due to low seniority. So, he would not have lost that much in absolute terms.
In total, I’d guess that timing would have made, say $200k to $500k difference on the high end, which is not much overall.
Hence my point about staying invested (and employed) through the crash. I know a lot of very smart people that went to cash in late '08 and stayed there for a few years. I read estimates that because of human behavior causing poor market timing decisions, many people set their retirement back 5-10 years. I’d like to think people working in finance know better, but in my experience people in finance only think they know better.
i am in research for a hedge fund in nyc but sometimes I do wish i had an accounting background to have a deeper understanding when building pro forma statements and when going over 10K and 10Q. After all, the annual and quarterly filings are done by the CFO and his minions. Also, having accounting background will give you an edge when building pro forma for DCF because now, you don’t have to use past % of x or y and/or use an obscure estimate…
Like AbrahamIsaac,Itoo_,_ used to put down accounting or other jobs when I landed my first finance job although I was merely an excel bi*chboy and PowerPoint hugging “research analyst” lmao. Then slowly, I realized how nothing I was as I climbed up the ladder and that there was much much more to learn.
AbrahamIsaac_,_ I have posted in other threads and others have agreed with me - your reference of “fund accountants” which cover controllers and CFOs at hedge funds make on average 250k, and +700k, respectively. No need to put down these jobs when clearly you are level 1 retaker for 2018 and probably fold clothes at local GAP store.
I hope you mature up for the sake of your career and the general intellectual and maturity level of our fellow CFA charterholder community and candidates.