Trump Failed, Bigly

Is this 5 minute video meant to explain your complete lack of regard, credibility, and racist attitude towards Chinese people (and previously, immigrants from India)? You appear to be a lost person who is extremely impressionable. That’s a dangerous combination and it shows in just about everything that you write.

Like I said before, there’s nothing wrong with criticizing a government - even if you’re basing it on random internet sources. It’s the way that you go about it that makes it so insufferable.

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I feel the pain everytime I stand in a line at the groceries!

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The problem with Trump is that basically every instinct he has is wrong or misguided. Therefore, anything he says is meet with skepticism, perfect example being when to start reopening the economy.

i wouldnt say everything hes done is wrong. i would disagree with a lot of his moves. but i would say he reacts very fast. i would say he’s a guy that gets ■■■■ done. from what i’ve read, he flip flops a lot based on who he is talking to. he prefers concise summaries. he is straight to the point. i like how he handles things. very practical.

Reopening the economy really can’t be labeled misguided right off the bat, after all, countries like Sweden never went into lockdown and I’m sure their decision makers have very good reasons to go down the alternative path. Sometimes I feel that if it were not Trump advocating the reopening, people wouldn’t be so hostile towards the idea.

Personally, I feel advocating a lockdown because of a higher near-term death toll is very short-sighted. The economic consequences of a prolonged shutdown are huge and will cause indirectly a lot of destruction (deaths, depression, suicides, misery and the economically disadvantaged becoming even more disadvantaged).

they are anticipating 265m to starve from these shutdowns. these are young able bodied people we are trading for some old people to live longer. poor policy all around.

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I was going to include that in my argument but was scared of starting a good old dumpster fire. But yes, I 100% agree with Nery.

It’s a tough call man. My coworkers friend died of covid a few weeks ago… 43 years old with no prior health issues. Another guy’s Dad passed away last week. 72 years old, otherwise healthy and it just ravaged him.

Just off the phone with a client who is an ER doctor. He was telling me some horror stories about 30 and 40 year old people being crippled and dying in front of him. That’s not fear mongering, that’s the hard truth of the matter.

I do see both sides. I’d actually hate to be the one making that decision.

My condoleances.
But as harsh as it sounds, these kinds of decisions can’t be made based on individual cases. The big picture is more important. Statistics say that healthy, under 70-75 year olds are very unlikely to die of this virus. Of course, there are exceptions and every death is a tragedy but when talking about a nation’s/ world’s economic well being and well being in general, the small probability events should not be taken into consideration.

mortality rate in the us is actually pretty low. mortality rate at 1%. It increased from 0.5% so ■■■■ is getting worse. but there are studies that say that it should actually be a lot lower. than there are more cases than what is reported. anyways when ppl talk about anecdotes it just reminds me of the stalin quote:
A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

I hear ya, boys. I really do. It’s a difficult decision any way that you look at it. Sending people out into the abyss where there’s a decent chance you catch a fever and die is an excruciatingly tough call. And I’m all for firing up the cylinders again but I’m glad I’m not the one at the helm.

Legit question, no judgement here either way - promise. If you had the authority would you reopen things tomorrow?

I would. I’d probably only put some limits on huge mass gatherings (30.000 + people) such as summer festivals.

That’s fair. So many issues though; sporting events, restaurants/bars, public transit, etc. My guess is we’ll soon get to an open-lite situation… spacing on the subways/streetcars, every other table open at restaurants, no fans at sporting events, etc. Still not an ideal situation. A lot of people will be hesitant to come out of their caves anyhow, so I don’t think there will be a mass flooding of people back on the streets. It will take some time.

Rumor around my office is that we’re home for at least another 4 weeks… just a brutal time. A good friend of mine owns 2 restaurants and an Inn. All closed. Scraping by making bill payments with government subsidies but I’m not sure much longer he can hold out. A lot of places have closed the doors permanently. We do have to get back to some sense of normality.

i would open the economy. although i must admit as a worker i like the shutdown. hell i think majority of americas loves the shut down. you get paid more to be unemployed. the dumbest policy from maga. trump is clearly buying votes with the us treasury.

Yeah they’re all doing it though. We got Trudeau up here handing out bags of money like it’s Halloween. Debt doesn’t mean anything anymore.

I’m semi-loving it too for the record. Same income with 1/2 the expenses. What I miss is playing golf and crushing pub food and beers on a patio. God help us if this thing runs into the summer.

Debt definitely means something. Your taxes are going to rise eventually!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/21/watch-trump-deny-saying-things-about-coronavirus-that-he-definitely-said/?fbclid=IwAR227qYIoSKI4kRZKfWj6Zgf7lh5d7SvZWnegYo9FiMj7kf5jeOca_I5_R8

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/23/leon-cooperman-says-the-coronavirus-crisis-will-change-capitalism-forever-and-taxes-have-to-go-up.html
Billionaire investor Leon Cooperman said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Thursday that the coronavirus crisis will “likely” change capitalism forever and that taxes will need to raised soon.

“When the government is called upon to protect you on the downside, they have every right to regulate you on the upside,” Cooperman said. “So capitalism is changed.”

The chairman and CEO of Omega Family Office said the country is shifting to the left and that taxes will have go up regardless of who wins the presidential election in November.

“Quickly if Biden wins, slowly if Trump wins, but taxes have to go up. So things like carried interest, capital gains taxes, the ability to roll over real estate sales tax free, all that stuff is going to have to be eliminated. For the good, by the way,” Cooperman said.