^ I think we’re talking about different things, but agree in principle. I’m with you on the fact that an interview goes both ways, you are “interviewing them as much as they intervew you”. totally agree.
However they hold the power and all the keys, this isn’t a negotiation. If you were a “must have or our company is going to die” candidate, trust me, you would have got a very different interview. You would have been wined and dined with utmost respect and been thrown lots of money.
Since you didn’t get that, then the company simply has a lot of options to go for and feel just fine being that way until they find one.
Being selective is your right, and being employed grants you that power. I also totally agree. But it doesn’t change the fact that you wanted it enough to spend your time interviewing for it, and that they still hold all the keys.
I would say also that in general there are still far more candidates than seats. I get at least a few unwanted calls / emails every week. Some fund down the street blew themselves up getting long MCHX and GLUU in size (lol! who are these people?!) and I got a call from almost everyone at the firm. Fail.
Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be picky if you have something to offer, and you are holding some cards if you are good candidate, but you are not holding all the cards.
i recently had a final round interview with the ceo of a small data analytics provider. the guy was 15mins late, ok, fine, its an entry level role, youre time is more valuable than mine. he sat down and made a point of conveying that it was his first time looking at my resume. he then, out of the blue, asks me “where would you go if you could go anywhere”. he proceeded to interrupt my answer and said he was unable to proceed with the interview until his secretary could find the initial application i filled out when i first came in. now, bear in mind, this fucking thing took me 15 mins to fill out the first time and all of it was redundant.
so like the desperate hacksaw loser i am, i fill out the form again. he comes back into the room, looks it over and then exclaims “you were a manager at your previous position?!?!?!” as if he had caught me out incorrectly filling in a field. and i correct him, graciously, that i was indicating my supervisor’s title. he then continues looking over the form, and all of a sudden asks me if i realize i am wearing brown shoes with a dark suit. he gave me several other fashion tips and then told me i come across as “spacey”. when i asked if he could describe it better he recommended i google the word ‘spacey’ and see what comes up. i said i think kevin spacey will probably come up. that was about the end of it.
that was last week. it feels like im trapped in a nightmare, lol.
Yeah you don’t want to work there anyway. I work for myself now but my rule was that if they started reading my resume for the first time in the interview I would get up and walk out. That’s absurd.
My impression with most data science guys is they aren’t the best people people. Although I don’t mean this to apply to you since you are likely a data science guy too, this guy seems a little uncalibrated and you seem able to realize that. Hillarious story though.
I’ve not read this whole thread yet so apologies if this has been said already.
Do you want to know why the pool isn’t great and so many people are making such fundamental mistakes? Because you are allowing university/MBA admission boards to filter your candidates for you…
If you arrive to the front desk of the company right at the time of the interview or 1 minute over, should you apologize about it tothe interviewer and are you automatically rejected? This happened to me recently because of traffic. The interview didn’t start untl 4 minutes past the scheduled time.