never let the facts get in the way of a good story! next time just lie and build out this foreign agent character in it’s AF nascent stage
Tie with the state with the strictest gun laws in the country.
What about gun accidents?
^What about car accidents? They happen, and they kill people.
But we don’t see protests for people trying to ban automobiles.
But we weren’t talking about cars. Your question a while ago was whether the country would be better without guns specifically. So, it is very relevant to ask how many accidental deaths are caused by guns. I don’t think it is controversial either to say that cars provide far greater utility overall than gun ownership, such that a cost/benefit comparison to guns would not produce any useful conclusions.
C’mon. There are obvious, tangible benefits to cars. What is the benefit of a gun?
Also you have to register a car and have a license to operate it. I also don’t think you could just go buy a tank.
you probably can in texas. My brother-in-law’s father, good ol boy from virginia, has a tank that he runs over cars with.
You can definitely own a tank, presumably without functioning weapons. However, I don’t think you can get a license to drive a real tank on public roads. You would cause damage due to the treads. I believe it is possible to license armored cars (with wheels) and drive them legally though.
Not sure about the attitude in NYC since it has very strict gun laws, but many liberals love guns. My brother in San Fran owns a few and he’s very liberal. He and his buddies go shooting all the time. I know several others - especially women - that love shooting.
Guess my point it, this isn’t a war against guns or the right to bear them (except on the far, far left). People on both sides of the aisle like to shoot stuff. It’s just the laws around ownership that muddy the waters.
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I think the cars kill people too argument is stupid in the discussion of gun control, but there is some parallel to sports cars. No one needs a car that can go 185 MPH or 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, but driving a car like that can be a shitload of fun. Put an idiot behind the wheel of that car though, and eventually something pretty bad is probably going to happen. Should we ban all sports cars because there’s really no need for them other than they’re fun? Although I’m not a gun owner, I have gone trap shooting and it’s also a shitload of fun. Put the shotgun I used in the hands of idiot though, and eventually something pretty bad is probably going to happen.
In my state, all you need to do is replace the metal tracks with rubber. Tanks over a certain size have to have wide load signs on front and back, and get a permit from the municipalities you travel through. If you’ll be traveling at dusk or after sundown, you have to add exterior lights. No functioning weapons allowed to be mounted to it, of course.
hp - curious if you have a response to this.
Hp will probably quote something from his hero Drumpf
I just don’t see how stricter guns laws would have prevented the shooter from obtaining the weapons he used. (Other than a complete ban on semi-auto guns of course). He didn’t have a criminal record, no run ins with the police, nothing.
And if this it the case, it seems like we have two choices:
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Do nothing and wait for more of our fellow citizens to get slaughtered the next time this inevitably happens
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Ban semi automatic guns
Hmmm… really tough choice here guys. Perhaps we should debate this for a few more years?
^ well point No. 2 is a big part of the issue. For $50 you can convert a semi-auto gun into a fully auto gun, which is for military use. As an American isn’t it your “right” to own a semi auto gun if you want one?
i still dont get how the modification kits are legal