Grant Cardone - Cardone Capital Analysis - Real Estate Syndicating

I recall a month ago, people were talking about real estate. Anyways this is a third party analysis of grant cardone. brief summary on cardone. 300m net worth at 58, made his money teaching corporations how to sell. now manages a 750m real estate private equity fund that purchases apartment complexes. he his the epitome of bsd. he optimizes leverage!

Typical Structure of deal:

Cardone is General Partner and investors are limited partners.

35% investor money. 65% borrowed from banks.

6% preferred return first to investors that drop money. mortgage is typically about 6%.

fees: 1% acquisiton, 1% management fee, 1% disposition

During disposition, there is a 65/35 split, with 35 going to cardone capital.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hHI6kYz9So

anyways this is from what i found out. grant typically targets premium properties with 200+ units and 90% to 95% occupancy rate charging below average rates with a ltm cap rate of 8%+. his goal is to push the rent by an additional 20%. Investor returns net of management fees is typically 10%-15%. Once it has appreciated enough, he sells the properties adn this is the majority of his profits.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/072315/how-grant-cardone-built-350m-real-estate-empire.asp

His First Deal

At 29, Cardone finally put his more than 14 years of real estate studying into practice. He bought a single-family property in Houston that initially did well. However, after a few months, the tenants left, and Cardone’s cash flow dried up. He often jokes about the experience saying, “My occupancy rate moved from 100% right down to 0%.” He hated the fact that he had to lessen the focus on his main business in order to find new tenants. Afraid that this situation would recur, Cardone quickly sold the property, broke even and swore that he would never purchase single-family residential real estateas an investment ever again.

Subsequent Acquisitions

Cardone’s second acquisition did not take place until five years later. During that time, he continued to accumulate cash as well as increase his property investing knowledge base. His first multifamily-property deal was a 38-unit complex in San Diego. Cardone acquired the property for $1.9 million, making a down payment of $350,000. Just over a month later, he acquired another complex.

Cardone continued to purchase more complexes – at first, one at a time, though the pace later picked up. In 2012, Cardone Acquisitions made what was dubbed Florida’s largest private party acquisition of multifamily real estate, a portfolio of 1,016 apartment, spread over five apartment communities, for a total of $59 million.

His real estate holdings are based in Alabama, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.

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I don’t know much about that guy but was looking at gulfstreams on YouTube and saw this:

[video:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PepYNhT_FwQ]

What a BSD

This is piker sh!t. I get 150 bps for acq and management fees. 75% leverage and I’m projecting at least a 20 net to my investors. this guy is in the wrong property sector. I do pay an 8 but i’m buying at much better cap rates than this douche. I’m into splits day 1 and this guy probably takes 3+ years to get above a 6. Net on Net Turd > Cardone.

What type of property do you buy?

at what cap rates do you buy?

you only do 25% down? i thought the standard is at least 30%?

Why is your interest so shitty?

how many deals have you done?

whats the $ size of the deal?

how many investors do you have?

how much have you invested?

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Turd doesn’t discuss the niche he participates in. He won’t share the wealth, only the news of pedos

The money that is made in PERE is made by the GP. 6% pref to the LP’s is weak. 200+ units is where its at, better yet if they are in a high rise. In our Funds, the best properties are 200+ and anything less generally runs really tight, because they have the same systems (generators, boilers, makeup air, etc.) but less income to cover repairs and replacement. 80% LTV Fannie or Freddie as big as you can size it and if its FAH, soft debt to fill the gaps. 6% on the debt is damn high for a stabilized asset.

what sectors do you focus on? is it just multi fam apartments like grant or you broader?

lol what are the usualy preferred rates for lp?

what is the average noi?

what cap rates do you purchase? vs gross rental rates?

what usual rates do you get? yea i was wrong, i’ve heard that on his last deal he received 3.5% (interest only) for 5 years on a property then it adjusts and goes fully amortized? i went to check rates thatd be applicable to me and found that there are some freddie mac ones 750k to 5m at 4. to 5.5% fixed.

also he does go 30% to 35% loan to purchase ratio on his deals. typically sells in 5 yrs.

mainly multi family

8% prob more typical, 20% IRR but I’m in acquisitions not portfolio management

NOI… best approaching 8k per unit per annum, average closer to 4k

Purchase cap is misleading, going in looks in line with market on actual in place, but shoots up once the strategy is fully implemented. Selling caps anywhere from 5 to 7.5 though.

Term/ rate etc highly dependent, but simple conventional Freddie fixed in the 4’s, or floating with 200bps spread.

nice. what are the gross rental rates?

what are the actual purchase rates? and how much added value do you guys do? like how many bps do you increase the cap rates?

also you sell at a 7.5% cap rate using NOI? seems a bit high no? is it cuz stock market returns are pretty much same amount so why even lever up to get similar returns? i would think that it’d be lower though just cuz of the fricitional costs ie comissions/taxes also the price appreciation of the thing, anyways i feel that the majority are basing their buy and sell decision based on how they mortgage the thing.

anyways thx for input. 20% irr is awesome. what kind of fees you guys charge?

GRM is not a metric we typically run.

Value add can certainly be substantial from a capital standpoint but more often the value add is without significant capex.

You always want to lever up, and disproportionate splits to GP through a catch up and a promote amplify the return. Also not simply selling at a better cap than you bought but also jockeying for position in the deal to resyndicate and getting creative with ways to increase rents.

Selling mostly around a low to mid 6 on NOI, 7.5 is the highest I’ve seen recently fit something we got in a portfolio purchase and didn’t want. I model exits around a 6.5 to 7.5 to be conservative depending on location.

All of this is pretty much all over the board and tough to give an average. Depends alot on the position that we take in the asset as well.

Fees about 1.5 to 2 points on the assets, maybe acquisition, some expenses, probably reduce gross by about 4 points.

some interesting stats, contains volume and historical cap rates by sector

http://www.creentrepreneur.com/2018_outlook/

and replacement cost:

https://www.fixr.com/costs/build-apartment

average rents in los angeles:

https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ca/los-angeles/?_yTrackReqDT=00000020170407

Why the sudden interest in RE Nerdy?

I find that our development costs exceed what is contemplated in the fixr.com schedule.

this is the future: https://www.multifamilyexecutive.com/concept-community/passive-house-certification-whats-behind-the-process_o

good reads: https://www.nreionline.com/

https://www.amazon.ca/Real-Esate-Finance-Investments-Opportunities/dp/0974451835

https://www.amazon.ca/Estate-Investor-Financial-Measures-Updated/dp/1259586189

if prices crash, i want to be prepared, i plan to lever up like crazy with a commercial loan, i know that if i kill it in a commercial property deal, i’ll be good for life. so im just doing some prelim analysis.

you realize you’ll be signing a full recourse loan?

from what i hear commercial loans are non recourse. but i wouldnt mind full recourse, i dont plan to lose as i plan to buy when times are distressed.

What you think about this Suze thing?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-biggest-financial-mistake-you-could-ever-make-according-to-suze-orman-2018-10-02?mod=MW_section_top_stories

nobody will loan nontecourse to a newb. The thing about depressed prices is they usually coincide w a lack of tenants in the market or lenders willing to lever up someone with zero experience.

i am partnering with this residential realtor that will operate the apartment complex, he owns 2 properties single family dwelling. i am 100 percent certain that financing will not be an issue as i am taking care of it. i can easily raise the money 100% and lever it after and find another deal with the leverage. the most important thing is getting the first deal at a steal.

Bingo. Cash will be king. Make friends with some wealthy partners and situate yourself as the GP in the deal.