see- my problem is that my sport wasn’t football- it was water polo… and I typically have to explain… no, the horses don’t drown…
Haha, if someone really asked that, I don’t know how I would respond.
akanska Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > see- my problem is that my sport wasn’t football- > it was water polo… and I typically have to > explain… no, the horses don’t drown… LOL!! very nice. post of the day
My problem was drinking soda and eating pizza 
numi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > akanska Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > see- my problem is that my sport wasn’t > football- > > it was water polo… and I typically have to > > explain… no, the horses don’t drown… > > LOL!! very nice. post of the day
hey folks, just wondering if any of u have had experience applying for GS new analyst program (asia region) via their website resume drop-off system? i’ve submitted the online forms and uploaded my resume yesterday. granted it’s been < 24hours and generally the recruiting season is 3Q of the year, should i be calling GS asia HR folks sometime next week to follow-up? am concerned about my resume being lost in the “black hole” and never getting to the right eyeballs for consideration. but at the same time, i don’t want to come off as pushy or overly anxious. appreciate your thoughts, thanks all.
cfaprincess are you based in HK/singapore? i’m somewhat familiar with GS asia recruiting…feel free to drop me an e-mail if you’re from one of the locales i mentioned
Definitely put any kind of collegiate sports on your resume. I mean, non-athletic people won’t ask you about it, but sports-oriented people will be impressed. They understand the accomplishment and what it takes to participate at the collegiate level. Plus, Wall Street is very male-dominated, and many of these guys played sports, if not at the college level, then they wish they did. I have seen some very dumb people who were excellent athletes get hired on the Street. I suspect it was their sports background that gave them an edge.
The most annoying interview I ever had was with a corporate I was considering working for - I’d done all their tests and met with various people in their management chain at their HQ on previous occasions and then had to travel to some crappy little office to meet some supposed BSD. He rocked up late and on his own, didn’t introduce himself, sat down, then proceeded to ask the three most generic interview questions I’ve ever heard, wrote down some notes, stood up and walked out without saying anything further … How rude!!! A HR Consultant at the firm phoned me up afterwards to say I hadn’t got the job based on that interview and asked me whether I wanted any feedback, to which I replied , “No Thank You - but some courtesy the interviewer would have been nice”. BTW - They were: 1) Give me an example of where you have overcome adversity 2) Give me an example of where you have changed somebody’s mind 3) Give me an example of when you have worked on two projects simultaneously Talk about generic “Interview Questions 1.01” …
Loxley – that’s gotta be annoying, especially when you’re interviewing with someone who doesn’t have their own head in the game. It makes for a pretty lame experience, but on the other hand, that’s probably not someone you’d want to work for anyway. Niblita75 – that’s a good story…given how seriously you took football, I’m sure that’s the kind of thing that interviewers would respond very well to when they ask you stuff like character or “personal challenge” questions. I had similar stories about my involvement in tennis too, mainly as it related to things like teamwork, mental discipline fortitude, being able to handle adversity and rebounding from even the most embarrassing defeats, etc…and of course, I think people seem to readily understand that type of commitment required to be involved in sports at a high level, because most of us aren’t good enough to go professional and have to take on a courseload as rigorous as everyone else out there. So I can definitely relate to you there.
Loxley, did you give good answers?
The stories are definitely exaggerated, and probably fabricated. And as hearsay, I seriosuly dount its veracity. From my experience, the guys at GS are pretty humble guys. In fact, one of the things they vehemently reject is arrogance and disrespect to fellow colleagues, and that extends to job candidates. GS has a reputation for being a “team” firm.
Hi Numi, Could I get in touch with you too regarding jobs in Singapore/Hong King…I am very much trying to get a full-time there (am still in college) and infact will be giving my level 2 in Singapore and hoping to do some job hunting while I am there…
sure, but i really don’t have any leads in that part of the country…i’m not based in asia myself…not sure how much information i would be able to give you. probably less than anyone else on the forum that’s actually based in asia.
I admit to knowing next to nothing about the inside of GS and their “team firm” etc but from merely reading here, and from attending Goldman seminars, I merely conclude they have to sort out the really good ones from the crowd. I guess they make a living from being skilled so can’t have anyone join them who doesn’t have true talent. They can’t have someone on their team say “Uh… I don’t know… I’ll have to go and look it up” about something seemingly trivial. That’s my guess. Many other firms can, but I assume they can’t, it’s not in line with their image.
The girl didn’t exaggerate the story, I know her too well. This might be an isolated story as my experience with them is quite different. The disturbing thing with the story is: interviewers could veto candidate, but nobody deserved to be teased and laughed at even if they were idiots. Maybe she is a pretty and sexy woman so she has to be dumb to fit the stereotype? For example, the third interview kept throwing brain teasers at her. When she solved two perfectly in a row, the interviewer sneered at her saying: " if this is the optimal answer, oh, you would be able to sell it to the head trader?!" When she tried to solve the third, he just mislead her by giving her fake leads. The fourth interviewer kept staring at her when she did the calculation, when she tried to discuss something with him, he told her" I don’t want to harass you!". All this cannot be too unprofessional! I am glad she is not going to work there. BTW, she got two other offers in this market, there are firms that think she is great.
Always go with the firms that think you are great, no point to work for a firm where you cannot be appreciated for what you know or who you are, unless you have no other choice.
Screw Goldman.
There will always be some jerks in any company. It is a good thing she isn’t going to work with that team. If she really wants to work for GS, she can try again. Maybe she will meet a better team. If GS always blacklisted her because of a rejection, then just go find something else. This is no biggee really.
wtf is wrong with you guys now a days… you act like you deserve a job at a company making $100K+ right out of school. you have to start somewhere, put in the time, make yourself valuable/ marketable, then go to companies and sell yourself. if the companies don’t think you are valuable, then f’ em start your on thing and make your millions; otherwise suck it up. you are entitled to $hit, don’t think differently.
undergrad i got pretty far with goldman in the recruiting process- they came to school for a round of interviews, next day did a 2nd round and then a dinner for the top maybe 5 or so they were choosing from. i thought that was an interesting idea for undergrad recruitment- get a big table and see who can carry a conversation, who has social skills beyond the interview, etc. i got flown to NYC twice after for more rounds with different folks. first one was with maybe 5 or 6 different people from different departments- got a fair share of brain teasers and tough overall questions. next round was similar, different people in a few more focused groups where they thought you might be a fit. were they cocky? sure. but that’s wall street. if you can’t handle it, you probably shouldn’t be in this sort of career. i’m a female also and i think you have to be extra tough to make your presence known, but it can be done. i don’t even think they sent a letter of rejection or anything after this 2nd round of NYC interviews… just radio silence and upon my phone call, a polite we’ll keep your resume on file sort of thing. definitely not a horror story. they’re confident as they should be, you want to work for them, they let it be known who is in the position of authority. funnily enough, one of the 2 people who originally came to the college campus interview had been an all-american soccer player, we knew a lot of the same folks (i played a different sport but D1, yes i agree with everyone else who says put a sport on the resume- it helps)… she obviously was competitive and an all-star caliber worker, but she in confidence to me didn’t even give the most glowing review of working there. maybe right out of school it’s a jolt in NYC between work/life balance or the lack of life and way too much work. anyways, graduating in 1998, it certainly wasn’t the end of the world for me and i had many offers to choose from just not goldman. it’s a great firm, but as others have said here, there are a lot of great firms out there- if not them, make your mark somewhere else.