He was just mad cause he was in the school musical. What sport Numi??
cfa2grunt Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wasn’t referring to you, specifically, numi. > Just thinking that some of these folks probably > get jaded and start looking at the candidates as > puffed-up little punks who have no clue how the > world works. > > You’re right about D-I experience - normally folks > on the Street love college athletes. hahah, i know…i can definitely relate with you there, cfa2grunt. on one hand, i can’t blame candidates for trying to do whatever it takes to relate their past experiences to potential work opportunities (i guess that’s what interviews are for), but i’ve definitely seen some situations where people try so hard to make something fairly inconsequential into something really big…and then it just looks silly doworkson - i played tennis
A bit of a tangent… Should one advertise participation in college athletics if it was substantial? Eg National Champs/ All-American? I always wondered if it was a tool move that would elicit the response that CFA2Grunt described; would you put it on a resume??
I don’t see anything wrong with putting participation in college athletics on resume on anything wrong. But if you suddenly brought it up in your interview, then you will look like a tool. It does open a chance for the interviewer to bond with you if he happens to care about your participation.
I would absolutely advertise participation in athletics. It says a lot about you that you were able to do as well in the classroom (presumably) as all the other punks being interviewed given the time commitments of being an athlete.
I was set to play D1 football in college until I got injured. I wrote on my resume that I had several D1 offers (named the schools). I was always asked about it. I usually gave the story how I was at a Nike training camp with all the other top high school recruits. I had to run the 40 yard dash against someone else. At the time, I was a 315 lbs defensive tackle and I ended up being paired with Andre Caldwell (WR of UF, now graduated). That race was probably the most embarrassing race ever. I obviously got smoked by almost a full second. Always got a laugh and if they liked that story and I was asked about a hardship or challenge I would reply “racing Andre Caldwell.” I would then follow with a legitimate challenge.
see- my problem is that my sport wasn’t football- it was water polo… and I typically have to explain… no, the horses don’t drown…
Haha, if someone really asked that, I don’t know how I would respond.
akanska Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > see- my problem is that my sport wasn’t football- > it was water polo… and I typically have to > explain… no, the horses don’t drown… LOL!! very nice. post of the day
My problem was drinking soda and eating pizza numi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > akanska Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > see- my problem is that my sport wasn’t > football- > > it was water polo… and I typically have to > > explain… no, the horses don’t drown… > > LOL!! very nice. post of the day
hey folks, just wondering if any of u have had experience applying for GS new analyst program (asia region) via their website resume drop-off system? i’ve submitted the online forms and uploaded my resume yesterday. granted it’s been < 24hours and generally the recruiting season is 3Q of the year, should i be calling GS asia HR folks sometime next week to follow-up? am concerned about my resume being lost in the “black hole” and never getting to the right eyeballs for consideration. but at the same time, i don’t want to come off as pushy or overly anxious. appreciate your thoughts, thanks all.
cfaprincess are you based in HK/singapore? i’m somewhat familiar with GS asia recruiting…feel free to drop me an e-mail if you’re from one of the locales i mentioned
Definitely put any kind of collegiate sports on your resume. I mean, non-athletic people won’t ask you about it, but sports-oriented people will be impressed. They understand the accomplishment and what it takes to participate at the collegiate level. Plus, Wall Street is very male-dominated, and many of these guys played sports, if not at the college level, then they wish they did. I have seen some very dumb people who were excellent athletes get hired on the Street. I suspect it was their sports background that gave them an edge.
The most annoying interview I ever had was with a corporate I was considering working for - I’d done all their tests and met with various people in their management chain at their HQ on previous occasions and then had to travel to some crappy little office to meet some supposed BSD. He rocked up late and on his own, didn’t introduce himself, sat down, then proceeded to ask the three most generic interview questions I’ve ever heard, wrote down some notes, stood up and walked out without saying anything further … How rude!!! A HR Consultant at the firm phoned me up afterwards to say I hadn’t got the job based on that interview and asked me whether I wanted any feedback, to which I replied , “No Thank You - but some courtesy the interviewer would have been nice”. BTW - They were: 1) Give me an example of where you have overcome adversity 2) Give me an example of where you have changed somebody’s mind 3) Give me an example of when you have worked on two projects simultaneously Talk about generic “Interview Questions 1.01” …
Loxley – that’s gotta be annoying, especially when you’re interviewing with someone who doesn’t have their own head in the game. It makes for a pretty lame experience, but on the other hand, that’s probably not someone you’d want to work for anyway. Niblita75 – that’s a good story…given how seriously you took football, I’m sure that’s the kind of thing that interviewers would respond very well to when they ask you stuff like character or “personal challenge” questions. I had similar stories about my involvement in tennis too, mainly as it related to things like teamwork, mental discipline fortitude, being able to handle adversity and rebounding from even the most embarrassing defeats, etc…and of course, I think people seem to readily understand that type of commitment required to be involved in sports at a high level, because most of us aren’t good enough to go professional and have to take on a courseload as rigorous as everyone else out there. So I can definitely relate to you there.
Loxley, did you give good answers?
The stories are definitely exaggerated, and probably fabricated. And as hearsay, I seriosuly dount its veracity. From my experience, the guys at GS are pretty humble guys. In fact, one of the things they vehemently reject is arrogance and disrespect to fellow colleagues, and that extends to job candidates. GS has a reputation for being a “team” firm.
Hi Numi, Could I get in touch with you too regarding jobs in Singapore/Hong King…I am very much trying to get a full-time there (am still in college) and infact will be giving my level 2 in Singapore and hoping to do some job hunting while I am there…
sure, but i really don’t have any leads in that part of the country…i’m not based in asia myself…not sure how much information i would be able to give you. probably less than anyone else on the forum that’s actually based in asia.
I admit to knowing next to nothing about the inside of GS and their “team firm” etc but from merely reading here, and from attending Goldman seminars, I merely conclude they have to sort out the really good ones from the crowd. I guess they make a living from being skilled so can’t have anyone join them who doesn’t have true talent. They can’t have someone on their team say “Uh… I don’t know… I’ll have to go and look it up” about something seemingly trivial. That’s my guess. Many other firms can, but I assume they can’t, it’s not in line with their image.