Just got the wife a CPO navigator with all the fake chrome.
my douche runneth over but I love that shit.
Sounds about right. Thing is sick. I used to think its a chick car but they lengthened it this year and it has a lower rear end. The 250 is the same car but sluggish, I wonder if need the HP… Or if I should save the money.
I checked out the Lexus and its just way too small for me. Drove the Q50 and it was the clear winner, even if I had the same amount of headroom. Pulled the trigger for $1,800 below invoice… pretty happy, so much tech and buttons in the car I keep for gettings to looks at the road.
congrats bro, nicely done. next step is to figure out what goes on the vanity plates. it should incorporate BSD in some way.
Did you get the robot driving option? Also, interesting thing about the Q50: if you choose the electronic steering system, it’s the first car with no mechanical linkage between the steering wheel and the front wheels. It’s completely drive by wire. Apparently, there is a fail safe system though - if the electronic connection breaks, some how, there is supposed to be a mechanical system that intervenes, per regulatory requirements.
Chrome plates that read…
Top: 3/3 CFA & 800+ AF points
Bottom: #NoFap4Lyfe
…have already been ordered.
@Ohai- no robot or electronic steering. Drive by wire has a mechanic backup but it doesnt have that great of reviews other than one I saw of an AWD version. It comes standard on the sport model, which I went in there to buy, but I ended up buying a premium.
Speaking as somebody who just sold their 2011 GC, its a nice vehicle but they cost far too much new. I mean you can option them up to $40k+ in the US. I bought mine used and then sold it 6 months later for only a couple hundred less then what I paid and I sold it because even though it was <3 yrs old, it had multiple interior rattle noices I couldn’t solve, a cracking plastic noise in the dash on certain cold mornings. I just simply didn’t trust the build quality to not go to complete sh*t. On my nearly 10 year old Lexus I had before the Jeep… not a single noise that shouldn’t be there.
bump for me and CvM
HP pretty much laid it down for buying strategies, but I’d like to hear if anyone else can share experiences on how they put the screws to a dealer buying a car.
Sys, did you drive a bargain or just throw down whatever they told you to? I imagine the $3k you could have gotten off the price wasn’t worth the hour it would have taken you to negotiate it. How’s the whip?
This is what I do:
Hit True Car and get the automatic quotes from several dealers and all the pricing stuff on options and whatnot.
Visit the dealer with the 2nd best quote but go alone (this is key). When the dealer starts talking numbers, act confused and start looking through your folder with all the True Car quotes. Then pull out the lowest quote and say that you’re sorry, you looked too quickly at the quotes and thought the dealer you’re at was the lowest.
Get up and start to leave, saying you need to get over the other dealer because you don’t have that much time. They will ask you to wait and will beat the other dealer’s quote.
Tell them you need their price in writing because your wife won’t agree to come back with you later/the next day if it’s not in writing because she doesn’t trust car salesmen. Even better, get them to email it to you.
Tell them you’re leaving for home to discuss with your wife (you can’t call her on the phone because she’s currently in a movie with your kids).
Leave and take the written offer to the dealer who originally gave the lowest quote. Again, go alone so you can use “talking with your wife” to get out of the dealer with an even better deal in hand.
If the first dealer agrees to email you their quote, feel free to edit it to your advantage before printing it or forwarding to the other dealer.
Another thing I like to do is pretend to call other dealers while the salesman goes to talk to his manager. When he comes back and is within earshot, say something along the lines of “Wait, I’m sorry, I’m actually at another dealer right now and have to go. How late will you be there?” and then quickly hang up like you didn’t want him to hear.
^brilliant. have you actually done that?
Yes, several times. Altering the emails is especially effective because the salesmen are usually not all that tech savvy and don’t realize you can do it very easily. I really can’t stress enough how important it is go alone either. Not having your wife there not only gets you out of the dealership, but it also let’s the saleman know that he’s competing not just with other dealers, but also your wife. You’d be amazed how effective it is to say “Sorry, my wife won’t even think about coming down here at that price.” Not being able to reach her by phone is important too, because it gets you out of the dealership.
Isn’t altering an e-mail and proporting it to be a real e-mail of the sender fraud?
Not in the car buying world.
^ Great to see ethics doesn’t apply to whole industries. Carry on.
^ It’s kind of like doing business in a corrupt country.
This is genius…
So what has been you biggest score so far? Sticker vs paid?
Sorry Turd, I’ve been really busy. The whip is sweet, I’m at like 800+ miles now. Its just a beast too, you should go drive one, put the transmission in sport mode and let it rip.
About the purchase, I used TruCar and got quotes for the Lexus and the Infiniti. A ton of people will start emailing you, they may send you MSRP or competitive prices right off the bat. I simply said that the other dealers were already emailing me competitive prices so if they could send me those only, I’d appreciate it. They know you’re talking to like 4+ other dealers, so you’re in demand here.
I almost bought a car from one guy, he was at Invoice, then I realized that he offered me $500 below invoice in an email before I even went there, so I told him that was my queue to leave if he was going to pull that B.S. (I discovered this on my phone while at the dealership, I didnt even know I had previous emails going with him).
The next day I went and saw another guy that emailed me and seemed pretty cool. I straight up told him, I want a good price, I have like 5 other guys emailing me for my business, we dont need to be here for 6 hours arguing over a couple hundred bucks, and I want him to make some money, but I do want a top quintile price.
Ultimately, I worked with him to take a car off their lot to help them out instead of trading for one with other dealers, I also financed through them and they matched my 1.99% from lightstream: https://www.lightstream.com/
I explained 529 plans to the guy and stuff about his 401k and savings. At the end, I paid $1,800 below invoice, this is probably I dunno $4k+ below MSRP (I only really negotiated off invoice because I started so low). The guy was really cool, he actually told he was really impressed with how I carried myself and that I helped him out w/ everything. He gave me a thing for free synthetic oil changes for 4 years, which isnt standard for this place. The dealership does offer free airport shuttle and hand car washes too, so that stuff helps out.
This was also right before xmas and dealers get incentives for annual volume, so they’re willing to sell for less just to try to make year end numbers, I’d imagine its much harder to get these deals now.
When are you gonna pull the trigger?
i’ve considered the Q50, but I will likely go S4 if I can find one w low mileage at a good price. if i pull the trigger on an investment i’m looking into then i’ll have to scale back to an A4 or i’ll just wait a year. lots of balls in the air right now.
so you taking advantage of valet now at all the socal spots??? gotta love the valet scene in socal. Where’s your stomping ground - newport, santa monica, HB???
Got my Pathfinder for about $3,300 below invoice, which was about $6,400 below sticker. Part of that was because the one I ended up getting had several options that the other dealer’s vehicle didn’t have (nothing major, but still several hundred worth), but the dealer I bought from didn’t know that when he agreed to beat the quote. He even ended up throwing in a set of all-weather floor mats, a replacement key fob and programming for my Murano (only had one key when we bought it elsewhere), and agreed to install a remote starter in my Murano for cost.
^ You sure you not a OG hustler?