Oxford (MsC in Programme Management) vs. MIT (Sloan Fellows) Criteria is numbered according to importance: 1. Brand name 2. Demand from recruiters 3. Degree program and overall learning I understand Oxford offers the cheaper and part-time program while MIT is the more rigorous and more expensive one. What would you choose given the criteria above?
MIT if you want to work in US
Work destination is not one of the criteria being considered at this time. Just brand name, recruiter appeal, and overall learning (MBA). Score: MIT - 1 Oxford - 0
Sloan-ay, Sloan-ay, yeah yeah yeah.
I am not sure if that counts as a vote, but in any case… MIT - 2 Oxford - 0
Oxford if you are in and plan to stay in the UK. MIT for the rest of the planet.
Can anybody talk about the program and potential for learning? Unless learning and curriculum is not being considered by the general public when pondering on gaining advanced studies nowadays.
jackofalltrades Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- … > > What would you choose given the criteria above? ^^ If it is up to so brand name and overall learning I’d pick Oxford over MIT, but I must warn you my opinion is pretty biased.
If present trends contininue, in 10 years the question will be which Chinese executive management program is worthy of consideration, in my opinion. That said, Oxford’s name will always have a magic ring to it, and I’m sure they have an outstanding faculty, but the fact that its business school is, what, only 10 years old might be one factor if you are shopping globally.
KTE Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If present trends contininue, in 10 years the > question will be which Chinese executive > management program is worthy of consideration, in > my opinion. How do you figure? My experience from Asia is that school name means even more there than in the US.
MIT
Running score: MIT 4 Oxford 2 Please note that we should not consider where we want to work after the program. If we do consider this as a criteria, it will clearly be biased towards MIT. I just want to even out the playing field for everyone. Also, can we just limit the selection between the two schools abovementioned and not bring in some Chinese business school, which may not even come close to the standards of either MIT or Oxford Said.
Running score: MIT 4 Oxford 2 Please note that we should not consider where we want to work after the program. If we do consider this as a criteria, it will clearly be biased towards MIT. I just want to even out the playing field for everyone. Also, can we just limit the selection between the two schools abovementioned and not bring in some Chinese business school, which may not even come close to the standards of either MIT or Oxford Said.
MIT
Quality or amount learned are irrelevant. It’s all about the piece of paper with the name on it.
KTE Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If present trends contininue, in 10 years the > question will be which Chinese executive > management program is worthy of consideration, in > my opinion. > > That said, Oxford’s name will always have a magic > ring to it, and I’m sure they have an outstanding > faculty, but the fact that its business school is, > what, only 10 years old might be one factor if you > are shopping globally. LOL, like how Japan was about to take over the world in the 1980s. How did that work out?
Ah, a rare one here old enough to remember! As I said, if present trends continue. Yes, if Japan had not crashed (and how!) then all those people who were proud to be studying Japanese in the late 1980’s might have been able to put that skill to use. Social sciences such as business studies are dominated by the dominant society, which has been the USA since then end of WWII. The UK has been a declining society in world affairs for 100 years, but for several hundred years it was the dominant world influence until WWII, which is why Oxford still gets a free ride on those laurels. (The Said business school there really is less than 15 or 20 years old.) Another example, the UK was clearly the leading place to study economics, then that shifted to the USA in the past 40 years. If present trends continue, as the world’s second largest economy soon, China will be a place to study business, like it or not. LOL, like how Japan was about to take over the world in the 1980s. How did that work out?
Back on topic. I go with MIT, too. It’s business program is gaining greater respect and greater influence every year (out here in Washington, D.C. at least). I associate Oxford with the liberal arts, in general. But that is American bias. Back off topic: Yeah, I can agree with that. I just don’t ever see China as being the dominant cultural world society (at least in the next century) like some people do–I just don’t see the world embracing Chinese culture or language (which truly is an absurdly difficult language), nor do I see the international community embracing them as part of the elite, influential nations (because they are a tyrannical dictatorship that has no respect for human life or human freedom, thus the way Russia is marginalized on the world scene; Russia is lucky it has nukes and oil). I also don’t envision educated, influential Westerners–en masse (the key term here)–wanting to move to China (and China has a long, long history of being a highly homogenous society–I don’t see that changing soon). I guess in sum, I see China as a budding superpower because of the sheer size of their future economy, but I don’t see them at all as being in the next century a “hyperpower” (a nation that is not just militarily and economically influential, but also socially and politically; plus the Chinese have little history of successfully fighting international wars–show me first that you can even be a military superpower). I’m just not sold on China at all. But yeah, you’re right–business schools in China may be more desired in the next decade or 2 (I honestly don’t understand why people would want to work and live in tyranny, given a choice…but to each his own).
Just as an example, Ford confirmed today that it will sell Volvo to the Chinese. The layout of a world with much greater Chinese influence is hard for me to imagine, but forecasting is always difficult, especially the part about predicting the future.
Dude, this is my fault. I got way off topic with you, KTE, and kept digressing. I actually agree with you here. Haha.