Public Impeachment Hearings

The Republicans did their duty, they weighted the evidence at hand and all came to the conclusion that this is a witch hunt! Unlike the Democrats!

  1. I believe the “witch hunt” crowd is arguing in bad faith. It is the same with climate change skeptics. Anybody who looks at the science knows that burning fossil fuels and increased carbon dioxide is contributing to climate change. However, skeptics refuse to believe it and say it is unknowable. That is arguing in bad faith. Facts are facts. You have to accept the facts before making a decision on how to deal with them or ignore them.

  2. You wrote: “And just to clarify, if there was indeed a pay for play structure with a foreign government and inherent US corruption that was uncovered, the reward would be impeachment?”

It matters if you are talking about Biden or Trump because if you are talking about Biden you could be saying he is being rewarded for corruption with a Trump impeachment (corruptions led to a good outcome for him). If you are talking about Trump you could be saying his corruption is being “rewarded” with impeachment (bad outcome for him). Basically, what are you trying to say?

  1. This is too vague. I don’t know to what you are referring.

You have no evidence that the Republicans weighed (much less weigh t ed) the evidence.

And when you say, “Unlike the Democrats”, I presume that you mean that the Democrats weighed the evidence at hand and came to the conclusion that Trump had committed impeachable offenses.

Let’s stick to what’s being discussed. We are not talking about the witch hunt crowd and we certainly are not debating climate change. Was there an investigation into the Bidens? Did Ukraine receive funds? The facts are no, and yes.

I’ll lay off the counter questioning because it’s derailing the discussion.

Am I gonna have to lay out the whole “attempted bribery / extortion / murder / robbery is still a crime even if the attempt failed” points or can we skip that part?

I guess now we have to focus on getting the people convicted of attempted murder out of prison, because nobody was actually killed.

or we can convict innocent people with a homogeneous jury.

You and schopenhauer must have got the same memo on speaking points today.

Btw schop - have you ever read your own stance on women? Maybe you aren’t the best arbitrator

Got it, no answer.

We’re actually the same Soros funded protester.

Fuckin Soros, I knew it.

Let me get my notepad and you can run me through the bribery aspect.

Donald Trump offered Ukraine 400 million dollars if they announced an investigation into the Bidens.

Ukraine was set to announce this investigation on CNN, but the day before a story broke of Trump doing this, so Trump gave Ukraine the money anyways, and idiots beilive that because the money got sent (after he got caught) then everything is very legal and very cool.

So then the House was investigating this, but Trump ordered everyone involved not to testify, depite them being obligated to. This is why he was impeached under obstruction of justice.

And you don’t see the hypocrisy of an investication into an investigation of this: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

I mean, it’s so peverse it’s comical.

What exactly do you think Biden did for his personal benefit?

Hunter Biden was on the board of a company which had been under investigation 2 years prior. The investigation had been closed. The chief Ukrainian prosecutor had a reputation for letting corrupt companies off and Obama and most EU countries wanted him gone. Biden pressured Ukraine to fire him and in the process got the case against Burisma re-opened. Neither Hunter nor Joe did anything in the least bit untoward here. This was a bad thing for Hunter Biden.

If Biden broke the law, Trump wouldn’t need to pressure Ukraine into investigating him. The American DoJ could do it.

It is kind of comical, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin

The difference is that Biden wasn’t bribing Ukraine to make up a story, he was exerting influence on another country’s prosecutor. Had nothing to do with Biden nor anything to do with the election.

Donald Trump’s bribery had nothing to do with Ukraine nor foreign policy, but exclusively on the election.

To repeat: One was doing their job, the other was bribing a country to interfere in the election.

I’d recommend you read up on this a bit more.

Also, If Biden broke the law, we would know by now.

Either the GOP is too incompetent to investigate the Bidens or the Bidens are innocent.

Oh now I understand. right right, exerting influence and doing their job. got it.

“The Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats said they wanted to RUSH everything through to the Senate because “President Trump is a threat to National Security” (they are vicious, will say anything!), but now they don’t want to go fast anymore, they want to go very slowly. Liars!” - President Trump

The longer they wait, the more people who hate Trump will be like, hey why is this guy still president? Makes the democrats look incompetent, which they are, to the casual observer

This is how actual govt corruption works. Same with foreign aid. They are giant slush funds to filter money up. The parasites will all be rolled up. Nothing can stop what is coming.

https://twitter.com/michaelcoudrey/status/1210707250295107585?s=21