Star Wars question

I read an article yesterday. Can’t remember where.
It said that the Skywalker Saga had produced four great movies, two mediocre ones, and three awful ones. But it didn’t say which ones where which.

Question: which ones are great, mediocre, or awful?

I think we can all agree that Episode 4 and 5 are great, and that Episodes 1 and 2 were awful. But outside of that, which ones fall under which category?

My .02:
Episode 4 - Great
Episode 5 - Great
Episode 6 - Great
Episode 1 - Awful
Episode 2 - Awful
Episode 3 - Mediocre
Episode 7 - Great
Episode 8 - Mediocre
Episode 9 - Mediocre

edit - and for the record:
Rogue One - great
Solo - mediocre

I dragged my best friend out to see Send in the Clones: I was so bored and annoyed with the movie. When Dooku chops off Anakin’s arm, I turned to my buddy and said, “Chop off his other arm, teach him a lesson.”

I pretty much agree with your list, except for 7 (Force Awakens): I saw it for free on a plane and thought to myself I would have been annoyed if I paid money to see it in a theatre. Still haven’t seen 8 or 9; I really have no plans to see them either. :roll_eyes:

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After thinking about Episode 8 for a while, I realized that this Rian guy was basically out to offend all Star Wars fans, and that his “subverting expectations” was really just a way to troll people who care about series consistency and Star Wars universe lore. Technically, it is not the worst movie there, but I now put it last, due to the director’s overt destruction of franchise goodwill, and his seeming hatred for the fandom, along with intentional disdainful treatment of certain characters. Episode 1 was too goofy for its own good, but at least uncle George was trying to do some good for the property.

In fact, when viewed as a trilogy, Episodes 1-3, in my opinion, are a much stronger work than any individual movie in that set. The whole sequence had a consistent objective and expanded on crucial elements of Star Wars. The Star Wars story is stronger and more meaningful after adding the back story of Anakin and other Jedi in their prime era.

Unfortunately, the same can’t be said for the new trilogy of movies. Other than Kylo Ren, there is not a single new character in these three movies who is compelling or interesting in any way. The fact that Disney had to bring back old Sheev in an attempt to recapture audience interest shows how little people care about the new characters. Episodes 7-9 subtract from the overall franchise. Not only do these movies add nothing thematically to Star Wars, but they damage and invalidate many of the characterizations and concepts established by the previous, beloved films.

So anyway, with this in mind, here is my rating:

Episode 4: Great, groundbreaking. Makes other sci fi movies from this era look like pieces of total crap. Nothing like it ever existed.

Episode 5: Still great. Darth Father plot twist is brilliant for 1980. The practical effects continued to achieve new cinematographic heights. The character of Boba Fett is introduced intended to be some kind of badass, but is actually a total cuck in the end.

Episode 6: Good to great. A lot of the elements are just more polished versions of the previous 2 films, but it’s less original. Metal bikini is a weird choice for a pervert slug crime lord. Ending space battle is still good - it must have exploded peoples’ minds in 1983. The ewoks totally ate dead human bodies in the last scene.

Episode 1: A cinematic failure. Lucas lost it - imagine an old athlete who never trained for years and then loses horribly even though he did his best. CGI really aged poorly. Clearly made to sell toys to kids.

Episode 2: Overall still bad, but is an important cultural work, due to the countless memes that came out of it and enriched our world. It had specks of brilliance - basically all the scenes where Palpatine and Obi-Wan’s actors realized how stupid the movie will be and are hamming up their performances for fun. Also, people under appreciate how the setting of this movie is actually really interesting. The fact that there is such a good TV series based on Clone Wars makes this evident.

Episode 3: Good! Writing is still laughable, but cinematography, atmosphere, and overall feeling of closure help the film succeed. In a way, it elevates the previous 2 films, as this film wouldn’t have the same emotional impact if you weren’t familiar with little sh*t kid Anakin and all the happy stuff that cratered and burned in the end.

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Episode 7: Still good! Even though Disney-fide and Disney-generic. The recycling of old plot, at this point, is alliteration and opens the way for a future compelling story. Can’t wait for the sequel!

Episode 8: Crime against humanity, for reasons above. Johnson butt****** people like Greenman and got paid millions in the process. How can Harvey Weinstein be jailed and the monster Rian Johnson be allowed to roam free?

Episode 9: Eh ok I guess, but didn’t have a point of existing. They spent half the movie trying to undo Episode 8. Lead characters were boring and no one cares about them. The plot was clearly scrapped together in a panic. The film takes itself too seriously, so there isn’t even meme potential. Eventually, it will be forgotten.

Tanks for reading and heed always the teachings of Darth Plagueis the Wise.

I’d put 4,5,6 at Great and 7,8,9 at either Mediocre or Awful. I’m not a fan of JJ Abrams who played a big role in the third trilogy. George Lucas gave Disney an outline for the movies and Disney decided to ignore it and do their own thing (or rather JJ Abrams thing) instead
George Lucas Apparently Felt Betrayed By Disney’s New ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy
I’d be a lot happier if they’d followed the Lucas outline

As Mr Ohai said, 1,2,3 add to the Star Wars story

Me personally I don’t like the old ones or the new ones. I like 1 2 and 3 the most. Prolly because I am from that time period. To be fair I have not seen 2 of the new ones. I saw the old ones and thought it was lame.

On your scale, I have the following (I enhanced with +/-'s):
E1: Mediocre-
E2: Mediocre
E3: Mediocre+ / Great-
E4-E5: Great+
E6: Great- (the Ewoks taking down storm troopers with rocks and logs was just dumb; should have stuck with original idea of being on Chewie’s home planet).
E7: Awful+, was just A New Hope 2.0. Unoriginal and boring. I think people are giving this movie too much of a pass.
E8: This was just a giant FU to SW. It’s so bad it doesn’t even qualify for a ranking.
E9: After E8, I decided to pass on this movie.

Rogue One: Great- (This is how the new movies should have been made)
Solo: Awful

I know people are gunna disagree with me on E1-E3, but now comparing with E7-E8, the earlier films look much better IMO. E1-E3 are pretty cartoonish (thanks mostly to Jar Jar), but at least there is a coherent story and character development (Darth Maul in E1 was pretty cool too). E7-E8 are boring/unoriginal, still cartoonish (e.g. the slapstick comedy thing at the beginning w/ Snoke and the red-head guy), lack a coherent story, inject overt politics, nonsensical to no character development, and unnecessarily character assassinations.

the Ewoks taking down storm troopers with rocks and logs was just dumb . . . .

In fairness, the average storm trooper has always been an imbecile.

I thought 8 was so bad that I still have no desire to see 9. I am just pretending that 7-9 don’t exist.

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7 & 8 could have been good movies if they weren’t so jarringly disjointed. Episode 8 was basically created without any thought (or, rather, intentionally gave the middle finger to) ep 7.

And how about that Star Wars Christmas special??? :dizzy_face: :scream: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop:

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