Tesla Cybertruck

https://www.wired.com/story/electric-tesla-pickup-truck-announcement-specs-cost-photos/

hmm…

I like it. The window smash was unfortunate though.

I’d like to see it in person. I usually like distinctive designs (g-wagon is my fav suv). My brain is like, trying to process what it’s seeing. Kinda sorta design elements from B2/F117? But the direction is completely different. The front windshield looks like it belongs in the curtainwall of a skyscraper. It’s interesting.

Nice. Clearly design inspired by the Johnny Cab.

I don’t know who the buyer is for this. For traditional pickup truck buyers it’s a cultural status symbol and this is diametrically opposed in both design and signaling to everything they aspire towards. The typical Tesla buyers are not big pickup truck customers. So I’m confused by it. In some ways, I think the weird minimalist design was driven by balancing the EV limitations and the need to also be durable. So a more traditional truck might have faired better, but I don’t think the current technology supports designing a more traditional truck. Assuming they’re probably going to sell about ten of these, this seems like a good candidate to buy and stick in a shed to sell at Barrett’s in 30 years.

Same type of person who bought a DeLorean years ago – it’s an overpriced car, but looks cool and futuristic.

That’s sort of my point about buying it and selling it at Barrett’s in 30

I wonder how this would do at Barrett in 30 years… don’t people buy these because they are the cutting edge of tech? The original Tesla roadster, has that been appreciating?

how much over list would an original low mile Delorian bring?

Or you get to drive around in a future car.

Less about trying to sell at a premium in 30 years and more about driving a space car. It’s like moon-shoes, but for rich adults.

It’s usually some amount of scarcity, novelty, some level of iconic reputation and performance. This one would be more about the first two and a bit of the third.

Those people already have the model S which has far cooler performance and the impending new roadster. This thing is kind of lame.

I’m interested in what suspension they use with that frame. I would be impressed if they put up some videos of this thing conquering MOAB or something but I’m guessing they would have made that a part of the demonstration if it were anything to brag about.

Classic!

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCUYMM6pABw]

I priced a new Ranger and, with the options I’d need, the base XL model came to just under $31k. A similarly-equipped F150 was 35k. They would both get about 16 mpg combined, because I do a lot of city driving.

The base Cybertruck is $40k. VS the Ranger, I’d break even on fuel costs alone at around 80k miles.

For someone who doesn’t need 37 inches of ground clearance or enormous towing/payload capacities, it’s tempting. 75% of my truck needs are moving something like a sofa or refrigerator for someone, so the ramp in the tailgate seems pretty sweet, too.

F150 is 22-24 city mpg, ranger is 21. Cyber truck has additional limitations, such as installing home power station and resale.

I live in the Appalachians. Nothing gets its advertised mpgs here. Resale isn’t much of an issue. I tend to drive my cars into the ground and then part them out. The laundry room is just inside the garage, so running 240 to the exterior shouldn’t be too bad. Unless the Cybertruck requires some specialized equipment I haven’t read about?

The primary problem is my own aversion to buying new. Instant depreciation drives me nuts to the point that the only vehicles I’ve ever bought with less than 70k miles were motorcycles.

Depreciation matters because its a real cost. If its cold you should think about the effect that has on vs advertised battery life. Typically for good charging people are installing a power wall in their garage. Additionally if you’re in the Appalachians (I grew up there) you need to be aware of how many actual usable stations are in your area and what happens if you actually need something repaired. If you aren’t getting advertised mpg you will definitely not be getting anywhere near advertised range on the Tesla, which may be a bigger factor. Lastly, I’m a little skeptical about the idea that you can’t get advertised CITY mpg in an Appalachian town.

It’s not engine block heater country.

There’s one Supercharger station nearby, and numerous universal chargers.

True.

My residential street, which is fairly representative of the area as a whole, has a 10% grade. Not huge, but it adds up. Newer vehicles might suffer less than my car, which is a 2000 model year V8 sedan.

It doesn’t have to be engine block heater, if you have cold winters (snow), your batter performance blows on EV’s (like any battery driven device).

The whole thing is desperate “look at our futurism” Musk marketing. But if the next recession hits before the launch TSLA will be bankrupt, and thus the past not the future!