this wouldnt fly with Itera
http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2014/10/23/the-most-ridiculous-excuses-for-skipping-work/
I’m calling in sick with Ebola tomorrow. Monday I’ll say that luckily it was only a wicked hangover.
Did Diablo 3 make the list?
Sprayed by a skunk is the best I’ve heard. What’s the actual practice on sick days in the US? If I have influenza, I’m actually expected to show up and put in my eight hours or I’ll be dinged a day’s pay? The article makes it sound like there is no sick day regulation, but I can’t imagine top employers would not have sick days?
Being from Korea, I’m sure you meant to say Starcraft.
Not at a “top employer”, but at the last place I worked, we had a 48-hour policy, where we were prohibited from coming to work for 48 hours after vomiting (excluding hangovers).
I don’t have a lot of good things to say about that place, but if we ever get Ebola in WA those guys probably know what to do.
There are seriously dumb people in this world though…when I was waiting tables, a girl came in to work sick, puked in the bathroom, and was hurt when I told our manager to send her home. WTF. You’re handling food. Go home.
^ Do you get paid for that 48 hours? What about colds/flus?
I get 24 days off a year (not counting what I carry over from the previous year) to use however I see fit. I don’t have to have an excuse to take a day off work, nor is there any distinction between being sick and being on vacation. If I want to take a personal day and stay home and binge watch 2 Broke Girls I can.
That said, people that are obviously sick are strongly encouraged to go home and stay there until they’re better. No sense getting the rest of the office sick.
^ It sucks that you need to use your vacation to do so though. People may come in wanting to save their vacation days (I don’t want to waste a precious vacation day being sick). Interesting though. Up here sick days are generally not vacation days. But I think that’s by choice of the companies, I think the law is similiar to the US.
No one complains about it. 24 days off is a lot. Very few people use them all every year. Plus, we’re all able to work from home if we need to.
^ 24 is a lot in the US, but not much here, especially with sick days included. And it would quite low for Europe. At my current gig I have, no joke, 50 days. The norm is ~40 up here (I won’t use all 50 this year). Some of these are earned days so its not as generous as it seems. In addition we have sick days when needed (if you’re out a lot, the boss will probably call you on a doctors note). Sick days are intriguing to me. If you don’t offer them, then people come in sick, they probably aren’t productive and they nuke everyone else. But if you do offer them, people will abuse it, guaranteed. I think there is some evidence that having a set number of sick days actually encourages people to take the max, whereas a flexible policy results in fewer days. Anyway, is it better to have slackers take a few extra days off or have sick folks wandering the halls nuking the rest of the workers? Its a tough call. I took one sick day this year, but I probably should have taken a few when I had a terrible cold in March. But I’m a bit of a germ freak and practice good habits so I hope I didn’t take anyone else out. I agree with your employer’s practice, of no sick days and using your days off, if you had more days off. Employers should be as flexible as possible in keeping folks out of the workplace when ill.
Double double.
The solution to someone being sick is working from home if his job allows it. You killl 2 birds with one stone: the person sick doesn’t feel like he is losing a vacation day and the people at the office don’t get to catch a nasty cold.
And you call Quebec socialist? I have 25 days of paid time off (vacation, sick, etc) and that is on the upper end here. Everyone I know is between 10 days and 20 days, including people in senior positions. We also have one fewer holiday.
^ Labour is in high demand out here. An experienced pro can get whatever they want. Oil and gas is very flexible and that’s worked into most Alberta businesses, even outside of the oil industry. I too have 25 days of vacation, but I also have 24 earned days. So I work 8 hours and get “paid for 7” (whatever that means, I get a salary…), and the extra hour accumulates into two days off per month. So that comes to 49 total. The expectation too is that any appointments and stuff are on your flex days. Its a great system and very common out west. I even think krazykanuck said they did this in Texas (maybe just one day per month). Like I said though, 25 days+ 12 flex is more normal here (~40 days). I work in a bit that pays less for supposedly less demanding work, so there is a trade off for those 50 days (a trade off that isn’t worth it anymore IMO, and I may be returning to real finance soon). Sick days are on top of this. After 10 sick days, I think our pay drops to 70% for the remaining sick days or something. But if you ever took more than a few, you’d probably need some good proof.
My company has an unlimited sick day policy. Which is obvioulsy has limits, anything longer than 24 work hours has to be substantiated by a doctor/ER slip. From my personal experience, the only people who take the most advantage (aka abuse) such policy is our admins. The non FO people take advantage to the cows come home…
Replying to geo, I get 28 days a year PTO + holidays. My company, unfortunately doesn’t participate in the flex time, or 9/80 culture as is normal in energy. We are working on it but apparently our executive council thought it would be too disruptive during a time of overall company change. Whatever the F that means. Basically it means “we’re not going to give you what you want, and we’re going to veil it in this very poor excuse.”
Nice. That’s how it should be. It’s hard to see how the USA calls itself a “developed nation” given the low quality of life there. I maxed out in the states at 4 weeks, and had to fight just for that, and then they call you at the beach and expect you to pick up. Sad.
Vacation is laughable. I dont remember last time i took all days. Usually 1-2 weeks gets lost every year
When I was in the car business, there was a guy who would come into work with the flu, to try to get everyone sick. His reasoning was he would recover early since he got it first and have more customers to himself. He had to leave after a few hours though because he said he felt like he was close to losing consciousness. I was glad cause we had a guy on staff that was like 70 yrs old.
UK is generally 25 vacation days (not including public holidays, sick days etc.) and you can trade up to 30. You can take up to 4 days off sick with pay and not have any questions asked, after that you need to provide a doctors note and you can be off for a considerable amount of time. One of the admins was signed off with depression for 3 months, she was on facebook partying most weekends and going to Pink concerts. Eventually she quit and found some other shitty job.