rohufish Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > my head is spinning > > batterinram > buttering ram > buttering rum > > dsylexic, you’re getting way with taking advantage > of your name… > > lol true, i try to take advantage of my professed inability to splell 
CareerChange Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > batterinram Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Careerchange wrote: > > > > batterinram, would you have any > names/statistics > > of IIT/IIMians contributing to ISRO or BARC or > to > > say Green Revolution or White Revolution any of > > the indigenous efforts? > > > > How does it compare to non-IITians? > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > Would it bother anyone that there’s not enough > representation from IITs in achievements that > India considers a feather in it’s cap? > > Working in top posts in Wall-Street is great, but > I believe the fundamental mission of IITs was to > help India become technology self-sufficient. > That’s clearly not been achieved. > > Again, I don’t have statistics to prove any of > this. however, my suspicion is that India is able > to satellties into space and develop a nuclear > arsenal not because of IITs, but inspite of IITs. > I would love if someone can prove me wrong. You are correct about IIT not meeting the fundamental mission of making India technology-wise self-sufficient. I would mostly fault the Indian system/politics for that. India did not know how to use IITians. By accident, IITians have made India a IT powerhouse by lending credibility to Indian man power by their work. Also, my view is that most of the IITians are not be engineers; they may be better suited for research and teaching. They should be leaders, whether the field is technology, finance, management. Looking at the goal of IIT in this context, it has not been met, but it has allowed to pick some of the brightest Indians to stamp them with IIT brand, which in turn has gone out all over the world and have played the role of awesome ambassadors. Look at the IIT system in this light and forget about tax just going to 3000 students and then you will realize the contribution of IITs. By the way, instead of complaining or criticizing the infrastructure in India, why do we keep focusing on destroying something that works. If you want the Indian Govt to do something, go and vote. Don’t vote for somebody just because he/she is actor, has same religion as yours, shares your caste, and speaks your language. Put some thought and pick a govt that befits you. Also, start some movement to get away from nuclear things. Ban Cricket and Bollywood; will save you so much resource and time to focus on productive things.
CareerChange Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > As for “just 3000 students benefitting from IIT > > system” is a parochial view of IIT system’s > > contribution. What value do you put on the > > marketing/sales IITians have done and are doing > > for Indian manpower? I would say IITians have > > played a major role in making India the IT > power > > house it is by giving credibility to Indian man > > power. I am not saying IITians are the major > > players in Indian IT. Most of IITians move away > > from engineering to other things like > management, > > teaching, research, finance, mgmt consulting, > etc. > > Again through by their work in these areas, > they > > lend credibility to Indian human resource. You > may > > belittle this, but I think this is of huge > value > > to India and a lot more than sum of individual > > work done by IITians. > > They could perhaps have done this without help > from IITs. There are plenty of succesful Indians > around the world who have done lots of things > without setting a foot in any of the IITs. > > It almost seems to me that there’s a belief that > there’s a wide-gap between those get into IITs and > those who don’t. I am sure given a population of a > billion there are more brigther and ambitious > people outside of IIT than inside. > > > > > Also, look at the budget some of US schools to > put > > the cost in perspective. > > > > As for loans and things, people are in a dream > > world. Which bank will give even a few rupees > to > > students whose parents can barely provide fo > the > > family? Dude, just because the IT guys can get > > loans, does not mean everybody has opportunity > for > > this. This is one of the biggest difference > > between India and US. In US, almost everybody > has > > opportunity to further their life. Money is not > > the problem; you can borrow. That is just not > true > > for most of the Indians. When it becomes so, I > > would support you in privatizing everything in > > India. > > Well, isn’t it interesting the same folks who > thing it’s OK for the govt. to provide subsidy to > IITs think it’s not OK to bring in reservations. > Clearly, not enough lower caste folks get out of > IITs (as a percentage of the generic population). > > > Why can’t the same logic used for money be used > for reservations? If some people can’t afford it, > others don’t have the same level of access to it. Dude, are you drunk? It seems you do not even read things before you respond and keep inserting your sh1t randomly.
ban this and ban that. geez, i really detect an authoritarian streak in you.India got its independence 61 years back,but freedom? thats a dream. we replaced one set of tyrants with another supernanny state
Dsylexic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ban this and ban that. geez, i really detect an > authoritarian streak in you.India got its > independence 61 years back,but freedom? thats a > dream. we replaced one set of tyrants with another > supernanny state Go China! Now we can merge this thread with another one about India and China.
> By the way, instead of complaining or criticizing > the infrastructure in India, why do we keep > focusing on destroying something that works. If > you want the Indian Govt to do something, go and > vote. Don’t vote for somebody just because he/she > is actor, has same religion as yours, shares your > caste, and speaks your language. Put some thought > and pick a govt that befits you. Also, start some > movement to get away from nuclear things. Ban > Cricket and Bollywood; will save you so much > resource and time to focus on productive things. I am waiting for some IITian super humans to show us the path. We, un-branded mere mortals are not capable of such high level of thought. My head is spinning…
the electoral ballot system is loaded against true democracy in most countries. unless you have a ‘none of the above’ as a choice ,it pretty much encourages a vote for the big parties. btw, india does have a 49-O option,(pls google).but hardly anyone has even thought that such a clause is available - 99% of the election officials manning the booths are unaware as well. i tried to use it in a local election and was ‘advised’ to not act smart.
CareerChange Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > By the way, instead of complaining or > criticizing > > the infrastructure in India, why do we keep > > focusing on destroying something that works. If > > you want the Indian Govt to do something, go > and > > vote. Don’t vote for somebody just because > he/she > > is actor, has same religion as yours, shares > your > > caste, and speaks your language. Put some > thought > > and pick a govt that befits you. Also, start > some > > movement to get away from nuclear things. Ban > > Cricket and Bollywood; will save you so much > > resource and time to focus on productive > things. > > I am waiting for some IITian super humans to show > us the path. > We, un-branded mere mortals are not capable of > such high level of thought. My head is > spinning… Why is your head spinning? Zedi, use your force. Force is strong with you.
Here is something to start the debate again http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/File_IITians_contribution_to_economy_is_Rs_20_lakh_crore_Study/articleshow/3752658.cms
The study was commissioned by the IITs to counter allegations that they were useless. This data was based on “4,573 alumni who have till date participated in the web-based survey, according to Rajan Srikanth, the coordinator for the IIT Alumni Impact Study.” well…isn’t there a conflict of interest?
One more reality that I neglected to specify is that this while the example of the JEE exam was simply subjective. This implies a point by point portrayal and working for the issue was asked and the understudy was relied upon to reply in a stage insightful way. Imprints were granted for the right answer as well as for the working. This kind of example tried the ideas of the understudy all the more completely. The analyst had an unmistakable thought of what the understudy had at the top of the priority list before endeavoring the question. A subjective paper additionally gave a superior extension to the understudy to show his insight and to pass on how solid his essentials were. Find some IIT JEE video lectures here.
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This is a 10yr old thread dude
Created a new account to reply where the conversation left off eight years ago. LOL.