On the topic of qqqbee… I’m pretty sure this is him on the CFAI “Exam-Related Disciplinary Actions” web page. http://www.cfainstitute.org/ethics/conduct/Pages/candidate_sanctions.aspx “A Level I candidate sent an e-mail to CFA Institute wherein he misrepresented his CFA Program enrollment status, specifically that he was enrolled to take an exam for which he did not enroll. The Professional Conduct Program investigated the matter and found that the candidate engaged in the conduct thereby violating the CFA Institute Code of Ethics and Standards of Professional Conduct… The Hearing Panel imposed the sanction of One-Year Suspension from Participation in the CFA Program upon the candidate.” 1. qqqbee was signed up for the L1 exam 2. He repeatedly told CFAI that he was enrolled for L2 3. Who else would try to misrepresent their enrollment status to CFAI, the organization that keeps the enrollment records? So yeah…
No, that one was earlier. Besides he never misrepresented his enrollment status. He actually is super honest, he even published his ID photo to prove he exists. He just violated the standard about “defamation of CFAI”, and should be suspended permanently for that. He called them cheaters, who even revamped the website in order to cover their mistake. All that should have some psychiatric definition, paranoid schizophrenia or something. When I read that one on the sanctions page, I was also pretty surprised that someone misrepresented his enrollment status to CFAI themselves. Must be nuts. Or just having a really bad memory. It might be also that his computer didn’t function when he was in the enrollment process, and he decided he enrolled. Happened to me once, when I was paying my credit card on the bank website, it even sent me the confirmation message, but never processed it. My credit card was cancelled later for failure to pay it on time.
Great summary by itercom , I remember reading an example during my ethics study where an individual wrote about CFA on a forum bashing it, and it was not a violation. You can say whatever you want about it. Can someone confirm ?
SuperiorReturn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Great summary by itercom , > > I remember reading an example during my ethics > study where an individual wrote about CFA on a > forum bashing it, and it was not a violation. You > can say whatever you want about it. > Can someone confirm ? Seeing as QQQbee is hopefully registered for the December exam, I’d say ‘not a violation’.
iteracom, while your summary of qqqbee is factually correct (and impressive - you somehow captured all the meandering, bizarre qqqbee ramblings into a pretty concise summary), I feel you may have missed what made the whole qqqbee experience special - qqqbee’s broken English and delusional, strangely worded, and lengthy posts are really what the whole experience was all about. Then - and I’m really not certain how this happened - a few people somehow determined that he was like some sort of god or something, and formed an equally bizarre cult-like following. The weirdest part is that, no matter how obvious it was that everyone felt he was a total nut-job, poor qqqbee really felt like we all believed the conspiracy theories. By the end it got really weird. Did I miss anything?
iteracom Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > The first hint i got, was that the website I > mentioned has been updated. It no longer has the > L3 claim. CFAI moved really fast, since they only > got the info about a day ago. I am impressed at > the speed. > > 2. Also, I personally was told by one of the > friends of the girl, that she got a call from a > special investigator from CFAI and essentially > demanded the edit of the claim on the resume. > This does not mean she didn’t pass L2, could just mean she hasn’t registered yet for L3. While this is still technically a violation, how many people actually edit their resume for those few weeks or months between receiving results and registering for the next exam? I seem to recall though that you mentioned to her the requirement that she actually be registered for L3 to claim candidate status, so she’s certainly in the wrong either way.
Wow, where has this thread gone? It’s very unfortunate to see that there are posters in a forum such as this who are making statements that generalize a certain type of people. I hope for your own sake that you are joking and I sincerely hope that you change your attitude and mentality.
It is more culturally accepted to cheat in China then in America.
OP, can we just get an update on the girl? Ask your friend or friend of friends. Stalk her on FB and LinkedIn if you have to. I want to know if there are any developments. I have my popcorn ready and awaiting your response…
Is this suspect girl chinese or something?
starvinmarvin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is this suspect girl chinese or something? probably
all of this negative talk about the chinese might force the authorities in China to restrict this website. I wonder if that would bring down the passrate in China??
Were you born in China? Can you prove your claim?
Not to stir the pot anymore, but if Chinese people are more likely to cheat (note I said IF), then isn’t more likely to be because of unrealistically high educational and social standards, and because they have more at stake in the outcome of their success, than because they are inherent cheaters as a race? The educational system in China is brutally difficult, and there a long fall down the ranks of society if you fail to hit certain targets – it’s not exactly comparable the U.S. system of “big kid day care” (public school) that coddles people K-12 and burdens the taxpayer with the social costs of failure. In China, if you fail, you’re pretty much effed from what I can tell (having dated a Chinese girl for 4 years and spent time in China). So if Chinese people are more likely to cheat (which, by the way, I don’t think anyone has shown in this thread), it’s probably due to extrinsic factors and not some sort of racial inferiority (intrinsic factors). Anyway, it seems pretty silly to generalize about a population of >1B people when there is obviously going to be a lot of variation within a group of that size. I’m Caucasian btw, but I know plenty of really upstanding Chinese people in finance. They are amongst the hardest working people I’ve ever met.
bromion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not to stir the pot anymore, but if Chinese people > are more likely to cheat (note I said IF), then > isn’t more likely to be because of unrealistically > high educational and social standards, and because > they have more at stake in the outcome of their > success, than because they are inherent cheaters > as a race? The educational system in China is > brutally difficult, and there a long fall down the > ranks of society if you fail to hit certain > targets – it’s not exactly comparable the U.S. > system of “big kid day care” (public school) that > coddles people K-12 and burdens the taxpayer with > the social costs of failure. In China, if you > fail, you’re pretty much effed from what I can > tell (having dated a Chinese girl for 4 years and > spent time in China). So if Chinese people are > more likely to cheat (which, by the way, I don’t > think anyone has shown in this thread), it’s > probably due to extrinsic factors and not some > sort of racial inferiority (intrinsic factors). > Anyway, it seems pretty silly to generalize about > a population of >1B people when there is obviously > going to be a lot of variation within a group of > that size. > > I’m Caucasian btw, but I know plenty of really > upstanding Chinese people in finance. They are > amongst the hardest working people I’ve ever met. …are those extrinsic factors not dictated by intrinsic factors? Agreed the generalization is pointless and that there are many examples of well regarded Chinese people in finance.
Superior Return, I am sorry, but without any proof and evidence, you are confident enough to say that this girl is Chinese (probably). That’s blatant slander in my opinion. Are you Chinese? What makes you say Chinese people cheat more than others? I hate to say this, but maybe you should venture out more. It’s outright insulting. I am not Chinese, but its a very offensive thing to say. You got what, couple of articles? People cheat when there is pressure on them or when there is an incentive. This can be applied for any individual without taking into account pf their nationality. It’s a very poor attempt at making such a statement. I have grown up in four continents, and people behave in similar fashion whenever they are put in a similar situation. People in China (may) cheat (more) because of the environment they are brought up in, not because they want to. Give me a break!
Based on the facts I have, if I had to make an educated guess, I would guess the girl is Chinese. Because: 1. There are more Chinese people in the world than any other race 2. Based on the research, cheating is culturally accepted How is that slander?
sparty419 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Superior Return, I am sorry, but without any proof > and evidence, you are confident enough to say that > this girl is Chinese (probably). That’s blatant > slander in my opinion. Are you Chinese? What makes > you say Chinese people cheat more than others? I > hate to say this, but maybe you should venture out > more. It’s outright insulting. I am not Chinese, > but its a very offensive thing to say. You got > what, couple of articles? People cheat when there > is pressure on them or when there is an incentive. > This can be applied for any individual without > taking into account pf their nationality. It’s a > very poor attempt at making such a statement. I > have grown up in four continents, and people > behave in similar fashion whenever they are put in > a similar situation. People in China (may) cheat > (more) because of the environment they are brought > up in, not because they want to. Give me a break! This is coming from a guy who is mocking someone’s English in their signature. Quit being such a hypocrite and a b!tch. You are actually the racist. So maybe you should stfu
LPoulin133 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > …are those extrinsic factors not dictated by > intrinsic factors? It’s culturally dictated, if you want to call that an intrinsic factor, in the sense that the cost of failure is sky high. But there is no “DNA flaw” in Chinese people that makes them more intrinsically likely to cheat than people of other ethnic decent. That would be a ridiculous claim.
- So, just because there are more Chinese people, the probability of the girl being Chinese is higher? Oh, I didn’t know we are in Probability 101 here. 2) Culturally accepted because the system accepts it. Due to incentives or pressure. Sorry, but even if there is research that may prove that the Chinese may be cheating more than others, its silly to assume that some random girl who may have scammed her way on the resume is Chinese. Why can’t it be an Indian, or Nigeria (don’t they have the 419 scams arising from there)? It’s kind of like saying, just because you are awesome in basketball and love chicken, you are assumed to be black. Bottom line is there are good people and bad people. You can’t just jump to conclusion like that.