Anyone know where I can find free ones? The only free ones I can find are for the class of 2009 who are still looking for jobs. Anything else I have to pay for.
I think you can get Uwharton for free someone, if you can’t find it email me.
That’s the one I found. It’s the 2009 resume book and lists 138 alumni who are still looking for jobs.
Holy cow! 198 Wharton Alums looking?
mep_cfa, thanks for that link. I’m interested in UVa Darden in another 3 or 4 years and I was stunned at how unimpressive the competition looks. I guess I’m mistakenly comparing the accomplishments of people under 35 to people with real accomplishments who are considerably older and/or considerably more famous. I was like, “Congrats, yet another IB analyst at Banc of America Securities. Not impressed. 31-year-old who lists his undergraduate GPA on his resume. Embarrassing. 29-year-old who lists his clubs while in college. Whoopdedo–welcome to the 21st century. Another guy who fills in missing work experience history with ‘entrepreneur.’ How’d that work out? And yet another guy who lists some phony not-for-profit he started that was conveniently founded 1 year before he applied for the MBA program. Hmmm.” I’m a little surprised the adcoms can’t see through some of this obvious bullsh*t.
Is Darden even considered a for sure top 10 MBA? I would say its in the top 10 somtimes, sometimes not. You can see what the big gap in canditates you have some guy who went to McIntre was a PE principal and then all these dudes from India in IT.
alot of those resumes are very unimpressive and anyone 30+ putting their SAT scores on their resume=Total Douchebag.
I would take it a step further. Anyone listing their undergraduate GPA or SAT/GMAT score on a PROFESSIONAL resume when 30+ should be drawn and quartered.
kkent Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I would take it a step further. Anyone listing > their undergraduate GPA or SAT/GMAT score on a > PROFESSIONAL resume when 30+ should be drawn and > quartered. Coming out of MBA School, many companies (GS, McKinsey, etc) request GMAT scores on the resume.
NYCAnalyst86 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kkent Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I would take it a step further. Anyone listing > > their undergraduate GPA or SAT/GMAT score on a > > PROFESSIONAL resume when 30+ should be drawn > and > > quartered. > > Coming out of MBA School, many companies (GS, > McKinsey, etc) request GMAT scores on the resume. I’m 21 right now and finishing undergrad, would it be okay for me to have my SAT scores on there or should I take them off? *serious question*
SJZ Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NYCAnalyst86 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > kkent Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > I would take it a step further. Anyone > listing > > > their undergraduate GPA or SAT/GMAT score on > a > > > PROFESSIONAL resume when 30+ should be drawn > > and > > > quartered. > > > > Coming out of MBA School, many companies (GS, > > McKinsey, etc) request GMAT scores on the > resume. > > I’m 21 right now and finishing undergrad, would it > be okay for me to have my SAT scores on there or > should I take them off? *serious question* Put them on if you scored 2100+ or if you don’t go to a top tier school and your SAT score is way above the student average. (i.e. you went there on a full academic scholarship)
NYCAnalyst86 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kkent Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I would take it a step further. Anyone listing > > their undergraduate GPA or SAT/GMAT score on a > > PROFESSIONAL resume when 30+ should be drawn > and > > quartered. > > Coming out of MBA School, many companies (GS, > McKinsey, etc) request GMAT scores on the resume. Well, clearly that isn’t the case in the UVa resume book as about 90% didn’t list it. So I guess the other 90% are just dumb.
kkent Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NYCAnalyst86 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > kkent Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > I would take it a step further. Anyone > listing > > > their undergraduate GPA or SAT/GMAT score on > a > > > PROFESSIONAL resume when 30+ should be drawn > > and > > > quartered. > > > > Coming out of MBA School, many companies (GS, > > McKinsey, etc) request GMAT scores on the > resume. > > > Well, clearly that isn’t the case in the UVa > resume book as about 90% didn’t list it. So I > guess the other 90% are just dumb. Wrong. 1. That’s not the entire UVA resume book. 2. There are only 21 resumes in the class of 2007 book. 5 of them list their GMATs. 5 / 21 = 24% 3. There are only 47 resumes in the class of 2008 book. 17 of them list their GMATs. 17 / 48 = 36%. 4. In total, there are only 68 resumes both resume books. 22 of them list their GMATs. 22 / 68 = 32%. 5. What is Darden’s average GMAT? Did you notice that the only resumes that had their GMAT listed had scores at or above 700? Your estimation and reasoning skills suck. If you cannot convince me that Darden’s classes of 2007 and 2008 only had 68 people, YOU FAIL and do not even deserve to go to Darden.
Umm, these were the resume books for the Private Equity Group, no doubt vying for the nation’s top finance companies. So apparently, by your estimation, more than two-thirds of the Private Equity Group at Darden has effectively eliminated themselves from competition at Goldman Sachs, etc. and are, therefore, morons. I would argue that it is your reasoning that needs to be taken up a notch. Let me also note that I wasn’t gay enough to scroll through the entire 68 resumes and make an actual count. Rather, at around 11:30 am, I made a quick estimation from my 1 am reading of the resumes. Nevertheless, by your count, 2/3 of Darden Private Equity Group students were too dumb to recognize that they had ruined their chances on Wall Street by not listing their GMAT.
- I never said that these companies *Require* GMAT on the resume, I stated that it was requested. 2. Pretty sure that less than 66% of Darden’s graduating class end up at GS or McKinsey. 3. I never said anything about PE firms looking at GMAT. I stated that firms such as GS and McKinsey do. Weird, I’m sure that I-Banking and Consulting aren’t the same thing as PE. 4. You are assuming that everyone in the PE group wants to work for GS or McKinsey. Again, weird, I wonder why their resumes list that they are in a **PE GROUP** and not a I-Banking or Consulting club. 5. Your estimation skills are horrible. It took me less than 30 seconds to make an actual count. Quit while you’re behind.
LOL, Ok, so here’s the logical sequence here: - I say it’s dumb to list your GMAT on a professional resume - You say it’s not because top firms like GS and McKinsey *request* it - I say, well, the overwhelming majority of the PE Group didn’t list it - You say, well, 1/3 did, dummy. Ha. - I say, well, 2/3 didn’t. Obviously those 2/3 don’t know what they’re doing according to you. Ha. - You say, well, this is the PE Group. It’s not like people in PE want to work at GS and McKinsey. Otherwise, they’d be in the Darden IB and consulting groups. Ha. My response. Umm, so, why list your GMAT on a professional resume?
http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/how_do_i_apply/the_application_process/resume_cv_guidance.aspx “Applicants who have taken standardized tests such as the GMAT, LSAT, SAT, etc. should also include their scores. Providing as much detail as possible here is key. If you have academic transcripts showing detailed grades, send us a copy. If you studied in an academic system unfamiliar to most, try where possible to translate your result to help the reviewer understand (e.g., top two percent of students nationally).” As a side note, You have to love how like 50% of these people worked in Real Estate, Mortgage, etc banking all boosted by subprime crap. I was watching Real Housewives of OC the other day and its funny how many people were rich crazy quick just off mortgage loans or their insurance.
kkent Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LOL, Ok, so here’s the logical sequence here: > > - I say it’s dumb to list your GMAT on a > professional resume > > - You say it’s not because top firms like GS and > McKinsey *request* it > > - I say, well, the overwhelming majority of the > PE Group didn’t list it > > - You say, well, 1/3 did, dummy. Ha. > > - I say, well, 2/3 didn’t. Obviously those 2/3 > don’t know what they’re doing according to you. > Ha. > > - You say, well, this is the PE Group. It’s not > like people in PE want to work at GS and McKinsey. > Otherwise, they’d be in the Darden IB and > consulting groups. Ha. > > My response. Umm, so, why list your GMAT on a > professional resume? This is why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_(economics) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Spence Employers believe that the proportion of employees with high abilities is higher among those with high GMAT scores than with those without high GMAT scores. It does not make or break anyone, it is just a signal.